Turning Trials into Triumphs: Luke Fernandez's Journey from Adversity to Empowerment

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And we're back with another episode of Life-Changing Challengers.

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My name is Brad Minus and I'll be your host, and today I am extremely lucky to be able to have a conversation with Mr Luke Fernandez, who is a personal development coach.

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Luke specializes in helping people who have struggled with depression or a lack of self-confidence throughout their lives.

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He's struggled with it a a lack of self-confidence throughout their lives.

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He's struggled with a little bit and he's going to tell us his story, and it's really an amazing story, so I think you're going to be happy hearing about it.

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So welcome to the podcast, luke.

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How are you doing today?

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Thanks, Brad.

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I'm doing awesome.

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I'm happy to be here and ready to make an impact.

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That's what I'm talking about and, like I always said to all my audiences, listen, you might not resonate with everybody, but most likely you're just going to find that one little nugget, just that one little nugget, and if you get something out of it, it's a win for all of us.

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So, luke, I asked this question of every single guest, so what I'm going to ask you to do is just tell us a little bit about your childhood, where you grew up, what was the complement to your family brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, all that stuff who you lived with and what was it like growing up where and when you did Perfect, born and raised in the suburbs of the St Louis Missouri area, my parents starting real young.

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My parents got divorced when I was four years old and that was very impactful on me.

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I think that's where, looking back, a lot of my mental health and self-confidence issues first started.

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Even though I was so young, it was very impressionable.

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So I ended up living with my mother in a single-family household with my sister, and then I also have a half-brother, half-sister from my dad's previous marriage and a step-sister and step half sister from my dad's previous marriage and a step sister and step mother from my dad's later marriage.

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And then the whole family's around.

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We've got a big Italian family on my mom's side and then a smaller Spanish based family on my dad's side.

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Everybody in the St Louis area.

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There's a few out of towners, which was always cool to maybe go visit them if we had the chance.

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Few out-of-towners which was always cool to maybe go visit them if we had the chance.

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And then growing up, like I said, with my mom's single family household she did everything she could to raise us pretty well.

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We had visits with our dad every other weekend or so and then that kind of lessened a little bit as we got older, by own personal choices.

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And for me, not having my dad as present, I took it a different way than I think a lot of people do Now that I'm a father.

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We'll touch base on this later, but I just became a father almost 10 months ago.

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My boy's almost 10 months old and that came after six years of trying to get pregnant.

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So we got a lot of stuff to touch base on and I'm excited to get to it with everybody.

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Oh, congratulations, that's amazing.

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Thank you, your little boy.

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Yes, little boy named.

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Franco, franco, love that Good, strong name.

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Yes, would you consider that more Italian or more Spanish?

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It is, it's right on the verge.

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But more Italian, all right, it's right on the verge.

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But more Italian.

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All right, excellent, excellent.

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Yeah, it's got a little mobbish thing.

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Yo, franco, come on over here, put that diaper down.

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You don't need it no more Anyway just kidding, that's great.

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Yeah, so that's great.

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So did you play any sports in high school?

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So not in high school.

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Well, I did bowling in high school.

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Before that I played hockey.

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I played hockey and baseball, mainly roller hockey.

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I tried ice for one season but I wasn't a great skater, so I got out of that and right back to roller hockey.

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I really enjoyed it.

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My mom was a coach of a couple of my teams and it was just.

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It was so much fun.

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And then, as I got older, the rules got more structured and I was more of a what they call the enforcer type player.

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I was also great at scoring, but I also loved hitting people and protecting my teammates, if you will and things got too strict for my liking and reality.

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What I look back on now is I just didn't like rules too much and I like to push boundaries.

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Rules too much and I like to push boundaries.

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But it was also that one of my weaknesses is I gave up when stuff got too hard, which later transitions many times in my life where I've developed a strategy to build myself up by doing hard things.

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And then in high school again, my mom she did so much for us.

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She started the bowling league at my high school because I loved bowling so much, so that was pretty awesome.

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We had four teams our first year and I think by the year I graduated we had like seven teams.

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Oh nice.

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Yeah.

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So that was really fun, Really great time.

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And then after that I wasn't in sports anymore.

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I did hacky sack and like wiffle ball and stuff with friends, but that was about it yeah, did you go to school?

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go to college I went to community college for a year and a half.

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School just wasn't my thing.

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Looking back now, like I was, I believe I'm dyslexic.

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I have to read things multiple times over and over to remember them and again I gave up reading because it was hard.

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Well, now I've learned that if I actually just try to do it and do it repeatedly every day, I actually don't have to read everything 10 times over and my mind starts to comprehend it a lot quicker.

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So there's just so many lessons along my life that I learned.

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If I just can stick it out one more time, one more day, it actually turns out to be an asset for me.

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Excellent.

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So what happened after that year and a half?

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What did you do?

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I just went to work in a.

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My first job was at a grocery store while I was still at high school, and then after that I actually worked at Toys R Us, the toy store, which was actually more fun than it was probably as fun as you think it would be.

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Of course it's a toy store, exactly.

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So I unloaded trucks primarily, and while we were doing that, well, sometimes we got to test out some of the new toys, like the electric scooters when they came out and those type of things, and we were in the store by ourselves at four o'clock in the morning.

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So it was quite fun actually.

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And then I went on to a warehouse job as I got a little bit older, and did that for six years I believe, and I moved into another warehouse job after that.

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I like actually like being in the warehouse environment once.

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I embraced being more physically active and looking at the job as a workout along with work.

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So oh yeah, no, I believe me, I know I worked for.

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I worked for UPS for one summer in the middle of a college semesters and I had to do it as an unloader.

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These guys would come to work and they had the, they had weight belts on and they had these big giant boots on and sweats and the whole bit and weight gloves, and it was amazing.

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And that's exactly what they did.

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That's their workout Six hours of moving big, heavy things.

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So I get it.

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I get it Because, yeah, I lost a lot of weight and gained a lot of muscle doing it.

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I just didn't like it.

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So you're working these jobs and where did you start figuring out that you had depression or where did that diagnosis come from?

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So I believe it came on pretty early.

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So I don't know how common it is around other places in the world, but at least here in, like St Louis and my school, particularly when my parents got divorced, I was put into like a group of divorced kids with the counselor.

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Not to say that I was depressed then, but I almost think that by them putting us in the group it made us think that there was something maybe not right with us, because me, when my parents got divorced, my sister and I thought it was because of us, and I think that's actually more common than people think is kids think their parents get divorced because of them.

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I don't think that's why they did now, but back then I did.

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So they put us in this group and we're surrounded by other people who come from divorced homes and I don't really remember anything from the group.

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I just remember being in that group with a counselor.

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So after that, I think within two years from that, I started going to like therapy, counseling outside of that because I had major anger issues when I was younger, from small child up until shoot not too long ago, probably about 28, 29 years old.

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I had very bad anger issues.

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So I started going to like a therapist for that and I remember she would tell me things like just grab a pillow to scream into that if you need to, or squeeze a Nerf ball, something like that.

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That's what kind of what she would tell me to do and none of that really helped.

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And I realized like every day I just and so probably around teenager, like 13 years old I felt really down about life.

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I just didn't like it.

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I was.

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I would look towards the future and be like what is the point, what's the point of waking up, going to work, seeing as that's what my mom did, my dad and then every other adult I knew, like they go to work not necessarily fulfilled or a job they love and then they come home and they have to do all the housework and cook for us and take care of us and extracurriculars.

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And or, just back in my day, we used to just ride our bikes all over the neighborhood.

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Roller blade just hang out.

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And then we'd come home eventually sometime right around dark or a little after, and that's how it was.

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Man, I miss them days.

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Yeah, I am with you.

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I'm with you in my my.

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I can't tell you the saturdays that my mom was just like get out yeah, you need to turn the house up, yeah and when the street lights came on, you better be home.

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Yeah, that's it.

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That was it.

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No fans butts about it.

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So I get that and I miss that.

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You know what I miss seeing the kids do that, Because out here we've got kids but they're all inside playing video games and stuff.

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But yeah, I miss looking at that.

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So you got to that point.

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So let's talk about, because you've got a big story about losing weight.

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Where did you realize that you're getting a little bit overweight?

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Yeah, definitely.

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So I think I realized it when I was about in eighth grade I started putting on.

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Yeah, it was pretty early, so it was right around when I quit playing hockey and baseball, the more active sports, and so not only was I not being active, but I was also at home more, and at home I had what was convenient, which was Little Debbie was my best friend.

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I love Hostess snacks frozen pizza like fish sticks, chicken nuggets, just anything quick, easy, candy soda.

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We didn't really know any better back then, my mom didn't know any better back then, and then that's just what it was and I realized the depression.

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And even when I had joy and happiness, I had frustration, anger, anxiety.

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I expressed my emotions with food.

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It was comforting to me.

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Some other people find comfort in the love of a family member or a dog or a book or nature.

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For me it was food.

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That's all that mattered.

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That's how I expressed everything and primarily, the sadness made me feel good.

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Give me, it was food.

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That's all that mattered.

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That's how I expressed everything and primarily, the sadness made me feel good.

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Give me that quick dopamine, that quick rush, have a little Debbie snack and I'd feel real good for a second, go play a video game or sit and watch TV, and then it just kept progressing from there.

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So, eighth grade, I knew I was putting on weight.

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I went from a kid in sixth grade where the elementary school is merged into the middle school and a bunch of girls like me, to be in an eighth grade, chunky and overweight and it didn't seem like any girls like me.

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And then, going into high school, did the bowling.

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But let's be honest, it's not very active and I knew I was overweight and I would get made fun of for it in front of my face, behind my back, and my way of dealing with that was getting in a lot of physical altercations.

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At school I had weight so I would push it around.

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Unfortunately, that led to a lot of different types of struggles and I was always defensive because I didn't feel good about myself, because I don't know how you can when I weighed 280 pounds and I'm 5'8", so that's a lot of weight to have on 5'8 frame and that continued like through high school, probably senior year, and then my first year in college, again walking around college, not doing good in the classes, not knowing what I wanted to do with my future.

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I just wanted to.

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At that point I was just like I just want to get somewhere and make money.

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I don't want to be spending money, I don't want to be sitting here at this class where I'm not learning anything.

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I'm also smoking cigarettes at that time, eating junk, my lunch usually contained a vending machine stop for a couple bags of chips, a candy bar and a Mountain Dew.

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Then on the way home I'd get a candy bar, an orange soda and a pack of cigarettes.

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And after college even though because I made it a year and a half and after that, I worked at the grocery store, I worked a warehouse, I worked a car wash before that warehouse Well, at the car washer there wasn't a lot to do, so it was just smoking and eating, yeah, and it just spiraled and it just went out of control without even realizing it.

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Like I didn't know.

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I didn't.

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I wouldn't say I didn't know, but I didn't, I wasn't cognizant that I shouldn't be doing that.

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Like it's not right to eat that stuff and to just be smoking and just be living in an endless cycle of like despair.

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Everything was just sadness and anger for me.

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I went straight to anger so quick.

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The wind blew the wrong way and I'd get so mad for whatever reason, and that continued until I was right about 1920.

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And then that's when I started my weight loss and fitness and health journey and then that's when I started my weight loss and fitness and health journey.

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So where was the what's called the aha moment that you just that, it just you turned the corner and said this has got to stop?

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Yeah, well, it's funny.

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So one of my friends at the time was dating this girl and we all hung out for a few months.

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Her, him and I and some other people Got back into street hockey and stuff.

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So it was a cool group of friends to be friends with.

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And then her and I had gotten close as friends over that time, just as we did with everybody else.

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Well, that guy decided I mean him and I weren't real good friends.

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We were like acquaintances.

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I'm going to preface with that.

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He broke up with her on Valentine's Day.

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She came to my work when I was at the car wash, crying to me, telling me he broke up with her and I knew he told me he was going to and so, okay, she comes, she's crying whatever she leaves, and then he shows up.

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That's funny.

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He didn't know she was there but he thought so.

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A couple months go by, her and I keep hanging out, Turns out I like her.

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Oh, wait, a second.

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No, I get this feeling one day.

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Her and I are at a beautiful scenic outlook, on a hike on a bluff that overlooks a river and trees and the sky.

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It's just beautiful.

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And I'm sitting back and she's on the edge of the cliff and I get this weird feeling in my stomach and I'm like what is this?

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This is strange, Okay.

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And I'm like I think I love her, Do I?

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I think I love her?

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That's strange, Okay.

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So after a few days, I'm like, okay, I love her.

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I realized that and I'm like, well, she's not going to want to be with a huge fat guy like me.

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So I need to change that.

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And it's a girl.

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Yeah, it's a girl.

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Yes, Whatever it is, if it can jumpstart, you use it.

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But for me it was that and it was just the thought we weren't an item, we weren't a pair, we weren't anything.

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She never said anything about it.

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But from that moment, like it hit me and I was like, okay, I got to lose weight and I didn't know how.

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I just drastically cut the amount I was eating and what I was eating and started moving my body.

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Okay, so where did you start?

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What was the moving of the body first?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So it was just my mom, I don't know years ahead of time had bought me a total gym, the one that Chuck Norris is on, and actually I'm in my basement gym right now and it's right here next to me.

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I still have it.

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It's probably been 20 years that we've had it and that's what I started.

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Moving on, I went in a spare bedroom, or no, I think.

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I brought it to my bedroom, set it up and I just started using it.

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I'm like I don't know what I'm doing, but I saw Chuck do this, so I'm going to do this.

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Literally, that's what started as my exercise routine.

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Oh, very cool.

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Yeah, and then I would just go for walks around the neighborhood.

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And that's when I was working a warehouse job where I actually wore a pedometer to see how much I was walking.

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I was walking on average 15 miles a day at the job.

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And then by that time I had gotten a gym membership and I'm like well, I think to lose weight you should just do cardio.

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So I would just walk on the treadmill or on the elliptical or the bike and I would watch a movie or a hockey game and I would take it easy during the show or those hockey game and then during commercial breaks I would go hard like run or sprint on the bike or something like that.

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Yes, yes, listen.

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I've got about 15 people on my roster and they always talk to me about hey.

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I'm always telling them hey, get it.

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Here's a couple of like easy things that you can do to put extra strength and stretch whatever.

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That's exactly what I tell them too.

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While you're sitting down with your significant other and you're watching something, when the commercials come on, do these stretches.

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When it comes back off, go ahead and sit back next to your girl.

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You know what I mean.

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I do that.

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That's amazing that you said that that is so cool.

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I think what you do, what you have them do, it's easy enough.

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So it's not like a huge burden for them to get up and do it.

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But it's something and it gets the heart rate going a little bit.

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It keeps them a little limber, a little flexible, feel better too.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So I don't know if you read anything about me, but I have an endurance coach, so I coach people that do marathons and ultra marathons and ironmans and all that stuff, and the problem that I have is they never spend time for recovery, and that's what I tell them, that's when I use them.

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And then all of a sudden they're like oh, I don't make so much sense, I just put my foam roller over here.

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When the commercials come on, I zip back and forth, or if I'm having a conversation, I'll just do this, and I'm like, yeah, it's perfect.

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And yeah, but that's why I was so like it was like excited when you said that, hey, when the commercials came on, I sped it up, that's perfect.

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So you were doing intervals and you didn't even know it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And that's awesome.

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And so yeah, and then that like the diet part of that, like I said, it went from frozen pizzas and junk food and straight nothing but that for years and years to salad, grilled chicken, apple, veggie tray.

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That was it.

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Again, I didn't know really what I was doing, I just knew I think that stuff's healthy from what I've heard, so that's what I'm going to do.

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I cut out ranch dressing on my salads.

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I usually use an Italian dressing because I think that's better.

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I didn't know anything back then.

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I just knew I think this stuff is right from what I've heard, so this is what I'm going to do.

00:19:09.721 --> 00:19:10.765
And what kind of gym was it?

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I'm sorry, you're fine.

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What kind of gym was it that there wasn't, like some other?

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Personal trainers or anything around.

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So it was a anytime fitness which.

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Oh, ok, yeah, so it's usually like the owners, the only person and that guy did help me.

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He helped me out with like the working out.

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He was like, hey, like you should probably start doing some resistance training.

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And so he had me doing like lightweight, high rep stuff in the beginning and I even asked him about once I lost all the weight.

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I had all the extra skin on my stomach and I was like so anything we can do to tighten this up or do about this?

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And he goes oh, the old smiley face, yeah, not so much.

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Like without surgery it's going to be pretty hard.

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So he did help me a little bit.

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But back to like the first two to three months I lost between 40 and 50 pounds, like it came off pretty quick.

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And then the I think eventually a year and a half was about when I had lost the total of 143 pounds.

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So I got down to 137 pounds, which was too small without realizing it Again.

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My sister pointed it out to me.

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She's like your neck looks pretty small, like you look sick.

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I'm like no, I don't Me used to being so overweight.

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I never looked in the mirror, literally never looked in the mirror when I was big because I didn't want to see myself.

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Even after losing the weight, I still didn't look in the mirror because I didn't want to see myself.

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Even now, this is 14 years later, I still have to remind myself you can look in the mirror, it's okay, I still have.

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I don't know if it's body dysmorphia or just some mental blocks going on from when I was overweight.

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So I say that to say I finally went and looked in the mirror and I was like, oh, she's right, I should learn how to like put on muscle and healthy weights and gain a little bit back.

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And so that became the next phase in my health journey, essentially.

00:21:08.558 --> 00:21:13.561
So now I'm curious those first two, three months and you started to lose weight, how was your mentality at that point?

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That's a good question.

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I think back on it, I was still an angry and frustrated and sad person.

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I was happy that I was seeing progress in my body.

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It's the only thing that I've ever stuck to.

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I used to quit everything that seemed hard.

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Losing 140 pounds is not easy, not even close At all.

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Dealing with overcoming food addiction is not easy, and so the mindset that really took about not until like seven years later where it got better.

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But I would still get so mad at the flip of a switch I would still like if my shoe came untied I'd get mad even after the weight loss the first date.

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So that girl who I fell in love with and lost the weight she is now my wife.

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Oh, fantastic.

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We're going on 11 years this year.

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Oh, congratulations, thank you so much.

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But our first date came a few months into my weight loss.

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So I had lost 50 pounds by then or so and we had gone to the St Louis Zoo.

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It's an awesome zoo.

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It's always very crowded.

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Here I go, getting mad that I can't find a parking spot, literally on the first date with my now wife.

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She's crazy for sticking with me after this.

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I'm getting mad.

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I'm like wrenching the steering wheel, I'm punching the roof, I'm yelling, I'm cussing.

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We're both smoking cigarettes.

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She's like chain smoking, thinking, oh, do I need to call my brother to get me away from this dude?

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Of course I didn't know all that then.

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So, eventually we find a parking spot, we go to the zoo.

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No, we didn't.

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We actually went somewhere to go eat and we didn't go to the zoo that day.

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That's right.

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So the mindset was still not great and, like I said, that came like seven years later, once I started listening to podcasts.

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And, yeah, I came across a financial podcast and then got into like business and then mindset.

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One of the first ones was probably something with Tony Robbins.

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He's, of course, the biggest guy in the industry and then so I listened to a bunch of his stuff and then some other guys and I was like, well, this is weird.

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I can like not feel like this, like I can choose not to wake up and be negative and angry and look for the problem.

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I said I used to like physical altercations, like I used to look for it.

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It wasn't around but I would find it.

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So I was like, oh, I can think differently, I can choose to think in a different way, I can choose to try to be positive, I can choose not to be mad.

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I realized I had a choice in everything, and everything in my life comes down to the choices I make.

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Even if it seems like it was totally out of my control, I still had the ability have the ability to choose how I react to the situation.

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That is so true it's.

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And you can go all the way back to when you said that you decided you were putting ranch dressing on your salad.

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Now people sit there and there's some times when I'll go through some sort of challenge, some diet experiment or something, and they'll be like, oh well, you can't have that.

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And I'm like, no, it's not that I can't, it's that I choose not to.

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And it's like, oh, you can't have that.

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What's not that I can't.

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I can have it all I want.

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I'm a free American human being.

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I can have whatever I want.

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I just choose not to.

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So that's a that is a perfect example of that that you decide that you had come up with that realization that, no, I can choose not to be angry.

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I can choose not to wake up depressed.

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That's great, that is exactly what we need, and you did it on your own.

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You didn't have some therapist telling you.

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It was through your research.

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So that's fantastic.

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Where did you decide that, hey, you know what I can take, what I've gotten, and I can help other people.

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Where did that come in?

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I mean, this is still years down the road.

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Like it took me years, like I knew I could make the choice.

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But obviously when you do something for 20 plus years you can't just turn it around in 20 plus days.

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So it still took years and it still does.

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Like I have to be vigilant and proactive in the way that I approach each day to get my mental health and my frequency to a higher state, a higher level.

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So each morning, like I have a routine quote, unquote.

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I don't call it a morning routine, but it sets me up.

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When I miss one of my routine steps, I can tell I'm a little more edgy that day, I'm a little more quick, quick minded to jump to a conclusion or what have you, or a little less patient.

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And so it's over time.

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And then my brother, half-brother, very successful in the real estate world.

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He's always been concentrated on his health and fitness.

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I've always looked up to him.

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He's 11 years older than me, so he's quite a bit different.

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We've never been super close up until about five or six years ago when I started getting into the self-development space, reached out to him and he kept saying you got to share your story.

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You got to share your story.

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Like people can be inspired by your weight loss, your mental health improvement, your successful marriage all that stuff.

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And I'm like no, like I don't want to do that, like nobody can learn from me.

00:26:33.781 --> 00:26:39.565
It's all the self-doubt that I still carry with me from when I was younger, that a lot of us carry with us.

00:26:39.565 --> 00:26:57.324
We don't think that somebody can benefit from what we have to say, but, as we talked about before, if one person hears one thing and they can apply it to their life which is what I did with Tony Robbins, trent Shelton there's a bunch of guys that I would listen to and they just say one thing and that's all it's got to be, and you apply it to your life.

00:26:57.324 --> 00:27:03.210
And so finally, I took action about two years ago when my brother kept saying scary stories.

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So I just started sharing some stuff on social media and it's funny, going through the weight loss and then putting on some muscle, and I've been up and down and I still get called fat, I still get called skinny, it's like whatever.

00:27:16.058 --> 00:27:17.823
Like this stuff doesn't bother me anymore.

00:27:17.823 --> 00:27:22.806
Where back in the day I would have gotten pissed and probably broke my computer or my cell phone or something when I saw it.

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And then so I just started putting stuff out there, and then I'd get the message or the comment from somebody who knew me a long time ago.

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They're like man, the way you turn your life around is really inspiring.

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It's awesome.

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It's motivating me to try to get better.

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I'm going to start working out.

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Or I have people that reach out to me now and they want to stop drinking.

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So they're asking about ways that they can do that, or they want to stop doing like hard drugs, and so I'm like, ok, give me a million hateful comments, I don't care, because that one message right there means more to me than all of that.

00:27:56.971 --> 00:27:57.974
It carries more weight than all of that.

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And so I started, like I said, two years ago, but the mental health and depression, it's an ongoing thing.

00:28:07.597 --> 00:28:08.740
It's an ongoing battle.

00:28:08.740 --> 00:28:19.336
So I faded away, came back, faded away, and then last year I started back up again, like in January, when I knew we were expecting our son.

00:28:19.336 --> 00:28:29.171
And then so my son was born six weeks premature in June of last year.

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Thank God he was okay.

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He came out completely fine.

00:28:33.280 --> 00:28:40.461
We'd spent some time in the NICU, dealt with all that, but a month and a half previous to him being born.

00:28:40.501 --> 00:28:44.528
So sometime in like April, I got really down, really bad.

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I had just left the gym.

00:28:47.201 --> 00:28:48.474
I go to the gym in the morning.

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That's how I like to start my day.

00:28:49.496 --> 00:28:49.976
I had just left the gym.

00:28:49.976 --> 00:28:50.616
I go to the gym in the morning.

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That's how I like to start my day.

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I literally walked out of the gym from a great workout and, like as soon as I opened the door, just a wave of darkness came over me and there was a bunch of fear, worry, doubt, anxiety, like oh no, my son's coming After all this time.

00:29:05.650 --> 00:29:11.596
We tried to get pregnant for six years, so there was a lot of stuff with that.

00:29:11.596 --> 00:29:13.422
Everything was racing through my head, my dad not being there.

00:29:13.422 --> 00:29:14.987
I don't know how to be a good dad.

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I want to be present.

00:29:16.298 --> 00:29:17.039
How do I do that?

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:17.781
How do I love him?

00:29:17.781 --> 00:29:23.943
How do I show him how a man should be strong but also open-hearted and caring and kind?

00:29:23.943 --> 00:29:25.848
Just all that stuff went through my head.

00:29:25.894 --> 00:29:32.976
I'm sure a lot of future fathers experienced that, but it hit me really hard.

00:29:32.976 --> 00:29:47.469
I don't know if I shared this with you, actually, brad, before, but so I'm supposed to go to work that day and I get in my car and I'm like I just I don't think I can do this.

00:29:47.469 --> 00:29:53.404
I'm like I don't think I can do this, I don't think I can be a dad and I don't think I can live anymore.

00:29:53.404 --> 00:30:04.377
So I was going to drive to a park that has a boat ramp and make sure I had my seatbelt on still, so it would just be harder for me to get out, and I was going to drive into the river.

00:30:06.202 --> 00:30:07.866
Oh wow, what stopped you?

00:30:08.535 --> 00:30:10.096
There was some divine intervention.

00:30:10.096 --> 00:30:12.278
I believe it was God.

00:30:12.278 --> 00:30:15.359
I've always had an on and off relationship.

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If I believe, if I don't, I think what I believe in as God is a little different than what a lot of people do.

00:30:21.164 --> 00:30:23.807
But I was on my way to the river.

00:30:23.807 --> 00:30:27.430
I was on my way literally praying God.

00:30:27.430 --> 00:30:28.651
I'm sorry I can't do this.

00:30:28.651 --> 00:30:37.185
I'm sorry I'm doing this to you, to my family.

00:30:37.185 --> 00:30:38.170
Please let them know I love them.

00:30:38.170 --> 00:30:39.394
Please take care of them.

00:30:39.394 --> 00:30:42.520
There's one entrance to the park I was going to and there was construction being done.

00:30:42.520 --> 00:30:44.205
It was completely blocked off with barricades and orange barrels.

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I couldn't get in.

00:30:44.887 --> 00:30:48.803
I couldn't get in, so I went to work.

00:30:53.394 --> 00:30:56.086
The next morning I talked to a guy at the gym who I've seen in there a bunch, who I knew a little bit from.

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He was a friend of my brother's.

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We never talked before and I was like I'm going to go talk to this guy.

00:31:01.042 --> 00:31:04.258
I feel not great about life, so I'm going to talk to him.

00:31:04.258 --> 00:31:04.759
It was weird.

00:31:05.442 --> 00:31:17.903
God again, maybe, showed up and I told him the situation from the previous morning and he said so you're telling me you were going to end your life and on your way to do that you prayed to God to take care of your family.

00:31:18.244 --> 00:31:25.327
I said, yeah, and he said and he made sure that you were still here to take care of your family.

00:31:25.327 --> 00:31:34.021
And it didn't hit me until he said that Of course I'm in the gym and I like break down, I hide my face crying in the gym.

00:31:34.021 --> 00:31:38.720
And it was basically from that moment.

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I was like, ok, I'm the one that has to take care of my family in every aspect.

00:31:44.890 --> 00:31:47.022
I have to be a better example for my son.

00:31:47.022 --> 00:31:56.450
I have to show him my struggles, show him my successes, show him the work that it takes, show him how to be a good man, a strong man, a loving man.

00:31:56.450 --> 00:32:12.998
And I believe the real not the real reason, but the secondary reason that I couldn't get to the park that day is because it's my purpose to help other men who might be struggling in the same way, whether it's with their weight or their mental health and depression.

00:32:12.998 --> 00:32:18.449
So that's why I am dedicated to sharing everything.

00:32:21.395 --> 00:32:21.876
You know what?

00:32:21.876 --> 00:32:24.201
Damn you, luke.

00:32:24.201 --> 00:32:26.286
Oh man, this is awful.

00:32:26.286 --> 00:32:28.048
I'm not supposed to do this.

00:32:28.048 --> 00:32:32.738
No, that was powerful, that was very powerful, and I really appreciate you sharing that with me.

00:32:32.738 --> 00:32:40.118
Wow, so this, you still talk to this guy so, like I said, it's real sparingly right.

00:32:40.199 --> 00:32:43.250
I talked to him two weeks ago I think.

00:32:43.250 --> 00:32:50.338
I saw him in the gym and talked to him because my time has adjusted so I'm usually out by the time he comes in, but we ran into each other again all right.

00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:51.763
Well, that's good, that's good.

00:32:51.763 --> 00:32:52.586
And he saw your stuff.

00:32:52.586 --> 00:32:53.790
Yeah, that yours.

00:32:53.790 --> 00:32:55.917
That story comes right out of that joke.

00:32:55.917 --> 00:32:57.423
You know about that joke.

00:32:57.423 --> 00:33:06.836
The guy's sitting, I sit in his house and the flood comes and he goes up to his roof and guy comes by in a boat and he says, hey, jump in and I'll save you.

00:33:06.836 --> 00:33:08.520
He goes no, the god will.

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And then the news chopper is coming up and the news chopper looks at him and points a flashlight down and sends him down the ladder and he says, hey, come on in, we'll save you.

00:33:18.201 --> 00:33:21.715
And then he says no, he says God will provide.

00:33:21.715 --> 00:33:26.000
And then a barge, a guy in a raft, comes by and he says, jump in.

00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:27.222
He says no, god will provide.

00:33:27.262 --> 00:33:33.090
Well, the guy has ended up drowning, gets up to the pearly gates, looks at God and he says I thought you'll provide, you would save me.

00:33:33.090 --> 00:33:33.896
Why didn't you save me?

00:33:33.896 --> 00:33:35.181
He says what are you talking about?

00:33:35.181 --> 00:33:38.217
I sent you a boat, I sent you a raft and I sent you a helicopter.

00:33:38.217 --> 00:33:39.817
What else do you want me to do?

00:33:39.817 --> 00:33:41.700
That is all you'd like.

00:33:41.700 --> 00:33:44.522
You literally just prove that in a much more emotional way.

00:33:44.522 --> 00:33:48.326
But I need to take something like that to like turn us around and get us smiling again.

00:33:48.326 --> 00:33:52.271
So that is like that's the epitome.

00:33:52.271 --> 00:33:55.182
It says you need to take help me, make sure you take care of my family.

00:33:55.182 --> 00:33:56.125
Well, you know what?

00:33:56.125 --> 00:33:57.138
Not me, you.

00:33:57.138 --> 00:33:59.922
I'm going to block this off and that's how we're going to go about it.

00:33:59.922 --> 00:34:02.061
That is a that's an amazing story.

00:34:02.061 --> 00:34:09.266
So so you come in and then you realize your purpose, that it's there for you to help other people.

00:34:09.266 --> 00:34:10.869
So where did you come up with Anomaly?

00:34:11.996 --> 00:34:14.744
So Anomaly actually came a few years ago.

00:34:14.744 --> 00:34:27.876
I was talking to a friend who I worked with at the time and we were both the only people in the building that cared about our physical health and then also financial health and mental health, and he was a few years younger than me, so it was pretty cool.

00:34:27.876 --> 00:34:33.365
I felt like his big brother, I was helping him learn about some stuff and about finances and this and that.

00:34:33.365 --> 00:34:36.615
And then I was like he's like, we're different.

00:34:36.615 --> 00:34:39.664
And I was like, yeah, we're an effing anomaly.

00:34:39.664 --> 00:34:41.496
And he's like, what does that mean?

00:34:41.496 --> 00:34:44.161
And I'm like I think it means what I think it means.

00:34:44.161 --> 00:34:55.447
So I literally like Google, searched it and it says anomaly, what deviates from what is expected from normal society, something along those lines.

00:34:55.447 --> 00:35:00.838
As soon as she said it, I was like, oh yeah, that's it, nice, that's it.

00:35:00.838 --> 00:35:06.262
And then so yeah, so then I just carried that and it's anomaly coaching.

00:35:06.262 --> 00:35:12.577
And then it's just people who care about their physical health, who care about their mental health.

00:35:12.577 --> 00:35:15.422
They're different than 99% of society.

00:35:17.284 --> 00:35:18.045
That's fantastic.

00:35:18.045 --> 00:35:25.936
So when you first get a client, you decide that the client, that you have a good fit, what's the first thing, what's like one of the first things that you tell them?

00:35:27.251 --> 00:35:32.813
Well, I tell them that they're going to have to work out and like whether they're so.

00:35:32.813 --> 00:35:41.465
I have like a mindset level and then a fitness nutrition level, but they each contain fitness because for me that's what started everything to change in my life.

00:35:41.465 --> 00:35:45.985
That's what started my physical health and my mental health and my self-development in general.

00:35:45.985 --> 00:35:52.202
I believe anybody who's on a self-development path should get physically active in whatever way works for them.

00:35:52.202 --> 00:36:01.940
I like to push ourselves a little more than we believe, because sometimes we don't believe until we start achieving right.

00:36:01.940 --> 00:36:04.550
It's not like if you believe it, you can achieve it.

00:36:04.550 --> 00:36:07.981
Sometimes you have to start doing it and then you can start believing in yourself more.

00:36:07.981 --> 00:36:11.498
So I tell them, hey, like how many days a week can you work out?

00:36:11.498 --> 00:36:14.778
And some of them are like, well, I don't really want to work out and I'm like then I'm not your guy.

00:36:16.391 --> 00:36:43.731
That's the foundation for me, because now I use the gym and I use my workouts a lot of times to address and quote, unquote, figure out things that I'm thinking about or that, whether it's if I'm feeling down or depressed or if I want to get just in an elevated frequency, or if I'm thinking about my family, something I'm trying to figure out, even if it's nothing bad maybe I'm just planning something for like the weekend.

00:36:43.731 --> 00:36:49.393
I go in there and I get in the rhythm and my mind just can go clear and then it's like, oh, there's the answer.

00:36:49.393 --> 00:36:51.998
So it's like the runner's high.

00:36:51.998 --> 00:36:53.563
You've experienced that clearly.

00:36:53.563 --> 00:36:58.030
You can get that while lifting weights, you can get that while walking, you can get that while hiking.

00:36:58.030 --> 00:37:13.264
I believe it's just your body getting physically active and you're getting more oxygen into your system, into your blood vessels, your heart's pumping, and then magically, you might get an answer or you might just feel better because of the dopamine and serotonin that come from the physical activity.

00:37:14.956 --> 00:37:15.579
That's exactly it.

00:37:15.579 --> 00:37:24.813
There's been numerous studies on the elevation in mood strictly by working out and just moving your body and getting blood and getting a lactate flush.

00:37:24.813 --> 00:37:26.556
Yeah, is basically what it is.

00:37:26.556 --> 00:37:35.184
Lactate can be not usually, but it can be somewhat of a reaction that can bring you down a little bit.

00:37:35.184 --> 00:37:39.414
And if you've got depression already, then that's going to happen.

00:37:39.414 --> 00:37:42.059
So that's great.

00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:43.842
So get them working out, yeah, okay.

00:37:43.842 --> 00:37:45.030
So what's the next step?

00:37:45.813 --> 00:38:00.141
Next step is we're going to try getting their nutrition and their diet to fuel their body and not just be filling their body, cause most of the time what people are eating especially if they're very overweight or obese is it's just processed filler junk.

00:38:00.141 --> 00:38:02.733
Now, not to say that I never eat that stuff.

00:38:02.733 --> 00:38:06.333
Sometimes I have a bagel or tortilla or bread.

00:38:06.333 --> 00:38:08.278
That's some of my carb intake.

00:38:08.278 --> 00:38:11.574
But as far as the Little Debbie, I don't really have that anymore.

00:38:11.574 --> 00:38:13.599
The cookies I don't really have that anymore.

00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.237
Once in a while I'll treat myself, but I want them.

00:38:16.237 --> 00:38:22.396
I'm like, give me three days of you not eating any of that stuff and I bet you'll start to feel different and think differently.

00:38:22.396 --> 00:38:29.818
I think it's been proven, but I'm not going to say it has, but like it literally affects the way you think and you feel because of it's not real, it's.

00:38:29.818 --> 00:38:34.012
I don't want to call it junk food because it's not food, it's just junk.

00:38:35.034 --> 00:38:40.076
So, that's the next step is try to get their nutrition aligned to fuel their body, not just fill their body.

00:38:40.076 --> 00:38:47.260
Aligned with their goals for whatever, whether they're trying to just elongate their health or to get in better physical shape.

00:38:48.885 --> 00:38:51.251
I had an episode a couple episodes ago.

00:38:51.251 --> 00:39:00.617
Her name is Pam Sherman, she's a lifelong physical trainer and she said that processed food it's not food.

00:39:00.617 --> 00:39:09.556
It's not food that you actually have, it's food that you rent because it's empty calories yeah I thought that was profound.

00:39:09.775 --> 00:39:16.918
Yeah, so if you eat mcdonald's or little debbie's or whatever, you're renting that food because it's such empty calories.

00:39:16.918 --> 00:39:20.253
You're renting it until it goes out and then you and it leaves you and that's it.

00:39:20.253 --> 00:39:21.235
That leaves you with nothing.

00:39:21.235 --> 00:39:25.701
That's like renting, whereas real whole food you're actually utilizing.

00:39:25.701 --> 00:39:27.684
So it's all nutrition based, right?

00:39:27.684 --> 00:39:30.612
So, yeah, wow, it seems how things come back.

00:39:30.612 --> 00:39:31.735
So that's great.

00:39:31.735 --> 00:39:34.119
So where does so?

00:39:34.119 --> 00:39:38.554
You've got somebody that they've gotten clean and they're working out.

00:39:38.554 --> 00:39:39.817
Yeah next.

00:39:40.898 --> 00:39:51.099
Next is if they're is, if they're more into the mindset stuff, then we have like daily non-negotiables, slash habits that I would like them to check off each day.

00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:51.561
Perfect.

00:39:51.882 --> 00:40:00.501
For me it's like I said my morning quote unquote routine wake up, hydrate, because you're dehydrated when you wake up and you're also under oxidated.

00:40:00.501 --> 00:40:07.920
That's why nobody wakes up like smiling and excited, because you haven't been breathing deep all night, so you don't have enough oxidation in your bloodstream, in your body.

00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.762
So wake up, drink some water and then I do like a little breathing routine.

00:40:12.762 --> 00:40:15.920
It's just four in hold for four, four out, pretty simple.

00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:21.655
Everybody seems to be able to do that, even though at first it's like this is weird and you're counting and then you mess up your breathing.

00:40:21.655 --> 00:40:23.559
It's just like keep doing it and you'll get it eventually.

00:40:24.099 --> 00:40:25.820
And then gratitude comes after that.

00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:30.545
I think Tony Robbins says it, but you can't be in a state of anger and gratitude at the same time.

00:40:30.545 --> 00:40:33.097
So why not start your day that way?

00:40:33.097 --> 00:40:38.175
And like, when I started gratitude, it wasn't easy because I was that super angry person.

00:40:38.175 --> 00:40:39.817
I'm like, what do I have to be grateful for?

00:40:39.817 --> 00:40:48.809
Literally, I'm driving to work at the time and it's like, oh, I'm grateful for this paved road I'm driving on, I'm grateful for the stoplights.

00:40:48.809 --> 00:40:50.175
Like it was little things.

00:40:50.175 --> 00:41:04.733
I had to start real small, and now it's I'm grateful for my health, my family's health, the abundance that surrounds me, all my positive energy and thoughts, and it gets deeper like that and thoughts, and it gets deeper like that.

00:41:04.733 --> 00:41:09.048
So I asked them to do gratitude in the morning for three different things, and then in the evening for three different things, like before bed.

00:41:09.048 --> 00:41:14.001
And then let's see water, breathing gratitude and then physical exercise.

00:41:14.001 --> 00:41:15.143
So let's get that.

00:41:15.269 --> 00:41:23.780
And then there's journaling in there, but we don't journal, or I don't like to journal about like this is what I want or this is what I'm hoping for.

00:41:23.780 --> 00:41:28.820
I want to journal on like where do I think I missed yesterday?

00:41:28.820 --> 00:41:31.152
Or where do I think I missed last week?

00:41:31.152 --> 00:41:32.594
What can I do better?

00:41:32.594 --> 00:41:33.998
Where can I make some adjustments?

00:41:33.998 --> 00:41:35.362
And that's how I said.

00:41:35.382 --> 00:41:37.514
My relationship with God is a little different.

00:41:37.514 --> 00:41:44.585
I believe my conscious is God speaking to me and I just like to once in a while.

00:41:44.585 --> 00:41:47.940
I don't get quiet a lot because I just like being active and in action.

00:41:47.940 --> 00:41:55.400
But sometimes you got to and you got to listen to that mind, that conscience of yours, and see like, okay, what can I do better?

00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.193
Okay, is there any adjustments I need to make?

00:41:58.193 --> 00:42:00.701
Is everything aligning the way I want it to?

00:42:00.701 --> 00:42:03.431
I'm real big on like your actions and habits.

00:42:03.431 --> 00:42:05.353
We're habitual creatures anyway.

00:42:05.353 --> 00:42:13.239
Most of us just have habits that aren't leading us to a person that we want to actually want to be or that we should be.

00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:14.420
And it's all about.

00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:22.867
I make them think a lot about being the example to the people that you love, whether it's children, spouse, brother, sister, family of some sort, friends, community.

00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:29.293
You got to be the example that you would want them to look up to.

00:42:29.313 --> 00:42:31.115
Awesome, yeah, wow, those are some great steps.

00:42:31.115 --> 00:42:39.251
Usually I like I walk through at the very end and I go, okay, hey, let's take some takeaways, but I think you just did them for us, so I think that's perfect.

00:42:39.251 --> 00:42:42.016
I want to touch on one other thing before we bring this to an end.

00:42:42.016 --> 00:42:48.737
You have mentioned it more than once on frequency and I am not as familiar with that.

00:42:48.737 --> 00:42:52.780
I've heard it bringing up in some several other podcasts and stuff, but I haven't really paid attention.

00:42:52.780 --> 00:42:54.577
So can you expound on that for us?

00:42:55.170 --> 00:43:01.476
Yeah, so what I believe frequency is, it's like your whole state as a being.

00:43:01.476 --> 00:43:08.766
At the time, before we got on this podcast, I was over here doing 50 push-ups just to raise my energy.

00:43:08.766 --> 00:43:17.188
It's raising your mental energy, your physical energy.

00:43:17.188 --> 00:43:32.739
It's hard to put into words and it's not like you see it, but sometimes you can feel, when you're close to somebody, like they almost feel powerful or they're like radiating positivity.

00:43:32.739 --> 00:43:33.501
That's what I mean.

00:43:34.081 --> 00:43:36.936
We all have high frequency and low frequency states.

00:43:36.936 --> 00:43:41.815
When you wake up in the morning, it's probably low frequency, as I said, because of the oxygen and dehydration and all.

00:43:41.815 --> 00:43:44.121
That's why getting into action early is important.

00:43:44.121 --> 00:43:53.831
I believe the best way to get in a higher frequency state is doing physical performance, because you're like oh, I don't really want to do these pushups right now.

00:43:53.831 --> 00:44:05.358
But then you start doing them and you get them done and you're like damn, I feel good, I just knocked out 20 pushups, I'm breathing hard, I feel good, my muscles are tight, like, and then you're like, oh, wow, cool, like what else can I do?

00:44:05.358 --> 00:44:07.561
And then that's a good time to go into.

00:44:07.561 --> 00:44:12.005
Like let's start thinking or let's read something that can that we can pull something from.

00:44:12.005 --> 00:44:22.076
I'm big on self-development books or certain autobiographies, so that's what I mean by higher frequency, sorry, start rambling.

00:44:22.096 --> 00:44:22.958
Oh no, that's what we're here for.

00:44:22.958 --> 00:44:26.103
The more you ramble, the more great those nuggets that we get.

00:44:26.103 --> 00:44:27.652
So, hey, go for it.

00:44:27.652 --> 00:44:29.717
No, but I wow, wow.

00:44:29.717 --> 00:44:35.760
This has been an amazing journey that you've taken us through and I really appreciate it more than you can possibly imagine.

00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.751
Let me ask you one more question.

00:44:37.751 --> 00:44:50.927
As far as any resources that you use on a daily basis, whether they're physical or digital, or maybe it's an app, what is like your favorite resource that you use on a daily basis?

00:44:52.210 --> 00:44:55.340
Well, since it all started with it, I got to say podcasts.

00:44:55.340 --> 00:44:59.496
I'm real big on like what are you feeding yourself?

00:44:59.496 --> 00:45:03.704
But not actually literally feeding yourself, but what are you mentally feeding yourself?

00:45:03.704 --> 00:45:05.255
What are you listening to?

00:45:05.255 --> 00:45:08.119
I don't know if people still watch the news.

00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.559
If they're doing, that's probably not too great for you, because I've seen the news channels.

00:45:11.559 --> 00:45:17.411
I don't watch them I haven't in years but I know what they're putting out there and it's just the same stuff and it seems like a lot of negativity.

00:45:18.052 --> 00:45:34.054
So stuff like that, or if you're always listening to this bad thing going on, that bad thing going on, you think about it and I believe our thoughts bring whatever we're thinking about to us and it's also how you're thinking about it.

00:45:34.054 --> 00:45:35.097
Actually, it was in this book I was reading today.

00:45:35.097 --> 00:45:37.103
The book I'm reading is called the Power or the Secret of the Power.

00:45:37.103 --> 00:45:50.922
It's after the book the Secret, which is all about manifesting and things like that, and it said in there that when you think about things that are positive, they're usually about love and joy.

00:45:50.922 --> 00:45:57.891
When you think about things that are negative, they're usually about lack and despair, and so that's what you're bringing.

00:45:57.891 --> 00:46:01.519
So you might think about oh, look at those pair of shoes.

00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:04.494
They're so nice, but I probably can't afford them.

00:46:04.494 --> 00:46:05.717
Well, guess what?

00:46:05.717 --> 00:46:09.117
You're going to keep seeing shoes or something that you can't afford.

00:46:09.117 --> 00:46:12.773
Instead, you could look at it and be like those are a beautiful pair of shoes.

00:46:12.833 --> 00:46:20.420
I can't wait to have something like that one day, and then you might attract that pair of shoes or something even better it has a lot of attraction.

00:46:24.710 --> 00:46:25.612
Yeah, exactly, but yeah back.

00:46:25.612 --> 00:46:26.614
So it's a lot of attraction.

00:46:26.614 --> 00:46:27.978
Yeah, exactly, yeah, but yeah back, so it's a podcast.

00:46:27.978 --> 00:46:29.842
And then what podcasts are you listening to?

00:46:29.842 --> 00:46:39.963
I listen to a lot that are self-development based and ones that my favorite interviewer, if you don't mind me saying, is tom bailu from impact theory.

00:46:39.963 --> 00:46:42.414
He did quest brands to me.

00:46:42.414 --> 00:46:46.893
He, the way he asks questions is, and he's really inquisitive.

00:46:46.893 --> 00:46:48.599
He brings great guests on.

00:46:48.599 --> 00:46:49.943
That's one great one to look at.

00:46:49.943 --> 00:47:01.135
And then anything that has Eric Thomas speeches or Tony Robbins, even Jim Rohn I listen to a lot of those and I'll show you real quick because I have this on my desk right here.

00:47:01.978 --> 00:47:07.418
This right here is my favorite book ever Don't Give Up, don't Give In by Louis Zamperini.

00:47:07.418 --> 00:47:15.255
He was a World War II veteran and before that he was an Olympian, a track Olympian, so you might like that.

00:47:15.255 --> 00:47:21.336
And I think there's actually been one or two movies made by him Angelina Jolie, or made about him.

00:47:21.336 --> 00:47:29.581
Angelina Jolie made one called Unbroken, so it's just, it's called Don't Give Up, don't Give In, and that's what his whole life is about.

00:47:29.581 --> 00:47:35.534
He went through World War Two and Prisoner of War and just crazy stuff dealing with that and then he got lost at sea.

00:47:35.534 --> 00:47:38.565
Just, it's an incredible book about resilience.

00:47:38.565 --> 00:47:42.777
So if anybody's ever feeling down, I've listened to it probably four or five times.

00:47:42.777 --> 00:47:43.880
I've read it three times.

00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:47.550
I've given out the book Don't give up, don't give in by Louie Zamperini.

00:47:47.550 --> 00:47:48.755
That can help pick you up.

00:47:49.757 --> 00:47:51.402
Excellent, don't give up, don't give in.

00:47:51.402 --> 00:47:54.478
Louie Zamperini, that's awesome, and you know what?

00:47:54.478 --> 00:47:56.471
I'm going to go ahead and link that in the show notes.

00:47:56.471 --> 00:48:04.525
So, luke, just one last question is if anybody is interested in chatting with you a little bit more, what's the best place that they can find you?

00:48:04.969 --> 00:48:07.574
Yeah, that'd be the website anomalycoachingcom.

00:48:07.574 --> 00:48:12.043
Or they can find me on Instagram at Anomaly Luke, and just send me a DM.

00:48:12.043 --> 00:48:15.719
Or if you just want to be motivated and inspired, I try to do that daily.

00:48:16.561 --> 00:48:17.402
Awesome, awesome.

00:48:17.402 --> 00:48:20.500
So all those links will be linked in the show notes.

00:48:20.500 --> 00:48:23.719
So just check out the show notes and there'll be the links.

00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:32.757
Hey, luke, man, this has been a great episode and I am so freaking psyched to get it out there and publish it for everybody.

00:48:32.757 --> 00:48:34.153
So I really appreciate it.

00:48:34.153 --> 00:48:35.097
Thank you so much.

00:48:35.338 --> 00:48:36.161
Hey, thank you.

00:48:36.161 --> 00:48:37.976
I'm so glad that you had me on.

00:48:37.976 --> 00:48:42.534
I'm honored, I'm humbled and I hope some people get something from it to lift them up a little bit.

00:48:42.534 --> 00:48:45.661
And my best, my last word of advice, is just take action.

00:48:45.661 --> 00:48:54.050
A lot of us think too much and that creates fear and anxiety and then we don't move and we sit in that self-doubt, depression comes in.

00:48:54.050 --> 00:49:00.534
If you take action, I'm telling you, you'll feel better, you'll start to believe in yourself and then you'll start thinking more clearly.

00:49:01.516 --> 00:49:01.918
Excellent.

00:49:01.918 --> 00:49:08.610
Well, you heard it here Take action.

00:49:08.610 --> 00:49:09.592
We talk about all these little nuggets.

00:49:09.592 --> 00:49:09.974
Now you know what.

00:49:09.974 --> 00:49:13.061
Find one in one of these episodes, if it's not Luke's, and go ahead and take that action, just like Luke said.

00:49:13.061 --> 00:49:22.333
So thanks again, luke, I appreciate it, and for all those out there, thank you very much for joining us on this episode of Life Changing Challengers, and I will see you on the next one.