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All right, and thank you for joining us on another episode of Life Changing Challengers.
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I'm so humbled and honored to have Meredith Alexander and Skylar with us today.
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Very amazing woman who is a shining beacon in this world.
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Both of them are just like amazingly positive, incredible people.
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And so Meredith owns the Grit Mindset Academy, and we'll get into that a little bit later.
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She's written two books.
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The first one is called the Sky is the Limit.
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The second one is 100 Days of Epic and just really excited to have you both with me today.
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Thank you so much for joining us.
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Thank you so much for having us.
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We are super excited to be here and hello to your anybody who's listening out there.
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We are honored to have you here.
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Do you see what I'm talking about?
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You see how the positivity just radiates off these women.
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It's amazing.
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It's amazing.
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So, all right, so you know what.
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I literally start off the same way, because I really love to have the audience have a good connection.
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So, meredith, can you tell us a little bit about how you grew up?
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What was your family compliment like what was the environment where you grew up, and tell us a little about your childhood?
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Sure, sure.
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So I was the only child, and, just as here in Tampa there are many military brats, I was what you might call an entertainment brat, because both of my parents were in the entertainment industry.
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My father ran one of the big amphitheaters in upstate New York.
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When I was growing up, my mom was on tour as a singer, so I actually grew up surrounded by some of the celebrities when I was a little girl.
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I mean, we're talking, I am going to date myself, but everyone from like Jim Morrison of the Doors before he died, janis Joplin, bobby Sherman if you are back into the little teeny boppy things, frank Sinatra, you name it but my passion ended up being the New York City Ballet, and so I was convinced that I was going to be a principal ballerina with the New York City Ballet.
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That was my dream.
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I was dancing every spare moment.
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I was also really good in school, but I was one of those that was like, yeah, okay, whatever, I'd rather be dancing, and so I was on the real fast track for it.
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I was in New York City Ballet's Nutcracker when I was little and was a child, one of the children, a candy cane, and in their production of Firebird, so it really looked like I was on my way.
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And then, when I was about 13 or 14, some cracks started developing.
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My parents announced to me that they were getting a divorce, and so it was a little bit of a tug of war of where was I going to live with whom?
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How was I going to spend my time?
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I going to live with whom, how was I going to spend my time?
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So one great path of least resistance seemed to be how about prep school?
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And so I was not particularly fond of the idea.
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But I did have some friends were going, who?
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So I thought maybe the adults in my life were saying friends were going.
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So I thought maybe the adults in my life were saying oh yes, if you were talented academically, you do not want to be a ballet dancer.
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And yet I had this little voice inside of me that said no, this is who you were meant to be.
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So I walked in to my beloved ballet teacher's audition for her spring production and kind of everybody knew that this was kind of just a formality, because clearly I was going to be cast in the role of the little match girl, which was the leading role.
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And so I start the audition and, shockingly, my beloved ballet teacher would not look at me.
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It was as if I was invisible.
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And it was so noticeable that, when I went back into the dressing room, all my little friends were saying what was up with Miss Marla?
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And she wouldn't even look at you.
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And so, of course, I'm getting back into the car with my mom.
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How did it go?
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Fine?
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What do you think?
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Yeah, it was fine.
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And so that moment of real first kind of shock and transformation came the next week when I got back and as I saw my friends looking at the cast list on the bulletin board and then saw their expressions on their face when they looked at me and it's that horrible look when people don't know what to say to you.
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So not only was I not cast as the little match girl, but I ended up in the court of ballet with all the little girls.
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And so what?
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Yes, with all the little girls.
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And so what?
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Yes.
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So what that meant to me was that not only had I humiliated myself and failed at this, but that horrible little voice that had been so certain, that had, to my knowledge, never led me astray, could never be trusted again, because that was the source of.
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Clearly, the way other people saw me was not how I saw myself, and so that was the last ballet I ever did.
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I agreed to go to prep school.
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I went on to prep school and continued with my life.
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I went to.
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I hated prep school initially as a child.
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It was incredibly high pressure, but I did really well.
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I finally worked my way to the point where, even in English class, I was awarded one of five A's that this one professor had given in 30 years.
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And so I thought, oh my gosh, ok, well, maybe I can be, I can be a writer, I love to write, I can be a writer.
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And so I go to Georgetown and I get enrolled in honors English class and of course she asked for a sample of our writing and I'm like here, write my A paper, and I get it back the exact same paper, c plus over, d minus, and that was it.
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That was finally like OK, the moment I'm starting to think okay, maybe I can trust this little boy.
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After all, that was the total shutdown.
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So from there, that really shaped me for decades of my life going forward, where I said you know what, I'm not going to chase a dream, I'm just going to chase a living, because that seems to be the way to do it.
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However, I couldn't help but notice that, as great as my education was, it wasn't teaching us how to choose to live.
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And so that's when I first encountered Plato, socrates, the Stoics, and it was as if a part of me came alive in that moment and that became the through line that kind of laced through all the other bits of my life and led me to study Aikido, study energy, study, tai Chi and really and Eastern philosophy, and I even traveled around and lived out of my truck, exploring Canada for about nine months at one point, until finally, lo and behold, I ended up back in New York and met Skylar's father, who was my Aikido instructor.
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Ah, that's where Eric Howell got be okay, yes, indeed, and so skyler's evolution is.
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It's actually a fascinating story in that my I am born on july 4th, which is somewhat of a holiday.
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Skyler has only heard the story like thousands of millions of times.
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So my mom made a passing comment that, oh, wouldn't it be remarkable because the baby's due date the first baby, not Skylar was early January.
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Wouldn't it be amazing if your child was born on Christmas?
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Well, I kind of perk up and go that is a fabulous idea.
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So I walk around telling everybody the OBGYN, the policeman on the corner I'm born on July 4th, so my baby's going to be born on Christmas.
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And of course people are kind of patting me on my head, going like sure he is.
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Well, lo and behold, to the music of the Star Trek Enterprise, boom, my water breaks and my first child is truly born on Christmas.
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So fast forward to my second pregnancy.
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Well, the due date is in early April and I say, oh, my gosh holiday, oh, april Fool's Day, because I'm born on July 4th, and now my son is born on Christmas.
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So once again, I walk around telling everybody my OBGYN, the lady who does the laundry.
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I'm like yep, that's when they're coming.
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And of course they're like mm-hmm.
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However, their father did not want to know the sex of this child, so I went through the whole charade of pretending to pick out a boy's name when I knew it was going to be a girl.
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Well, as it so happened, I have an uncle wait for it, skylar who was born on April Fool's Day.
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And I was so sure that this baby would be born on April Fool's Day that I said if it's a boy, it's going to be Skylar.
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Well, sure enough, my other daughter was born on April Fool's Day and, lo and behold, we have a surprise guest showing up on the menu.
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That's our third child.
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Our third child because I, of course, am going.
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Well, of course, we left a name in the universe.
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We left the name Skylar.
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So, boy or girl, this child is going to be named Skylar and, by the way, he or she will be born on Memorial Day.
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Bill, what is your?
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birthday Skylar.
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I'm really young, so I know, so awesome.
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You're just about.
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So that's right around the corner.
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So it's like so you're going to be 31?
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Yeah, very good.
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Oh great.
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So Lyndon is born on December 22nd.
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Correct yeah.
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And is it Shada?
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Sia, sia and Sia is born on April Fool's Day.
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Yeah.
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And Skylar is born on Memorial Day.
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Yes Wow.
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That's great.
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It is day, yes.
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You know what?
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It's amazing.
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I don't.
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I've never done an episode just on myself, so I try to sprinkle little things in here, and I've, and usually what it is how it comes out is comparisons with my guests.
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So I'm just going to tell you right now and a lot of people don't even know about me because I put this away but I in high school I started ballet, tap and jazz ballet, tap and jazz and I ended up doing it for 12 years and I was in New York for a little while.
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Mostly, most of the time, it was Chicago, where I grew up doing musical theater, dance shows, the whole bit, just like you.
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When I got here to Florida, I had been in the military for a while and I got here to Florida and right after my second tour in the military I got agents out here and I performed at the straws.
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I've performed at different spots, so I'm there with you on.
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I'm totally there with you on that.
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So we have that in common and yeah, so let's tell, say again oh, I was.
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I've been in numerous ones.
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I actually, I actually I actually was better in studio theater than I was in musical theater.
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But I've done Cabaret, I've done Jekyll and Hyde like three times.
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Show Boat, Damn Yankees.
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I did Damn Yankees at the Straws twice Come on.
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I'm going to get nice.
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Oh yeah, see.
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So you and then I also had performed with the Spanish Lyric Opera and we did a.
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We did a Spanish opera.
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I forgot what they called it, but they did it, but so that was cool.
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So yeah, I'm right there with you and realized that I did some semi-pro stuff, but it never.
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But again, whenever I tried for the big stuff, I got the same reaction.
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So you know.
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So, as a footnote to my ballet story is I and this is to anyone who is listening who has been very quick to squash their own dreams and who has been very quick to squash their own dreams and who has really taken one failure or even two failures and not been willing to give themselves kind of a thousand second chances.
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I found out in my 50s, after I really had gone through decades distrusting that little voice.
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I happened to mention to my mom in passing the whole little match girl trauma for me, because for me that was trauma.
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This was my dream getting ripped away, and she got this really strange look on her face and what she revealed to me is that my father had just been really late on paying my ballet teacher the bill, because he didn't see the point of me taking dance anymore if we're going to be going to boarding school, yes.
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And so she was frustrated and decided that she could not give me the leading role if the bill hadn't been paid.
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So I went through my entire life believing that it was me, when really it was circumstances that had zero to do with me.
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And so if anyone is listening at this point and has been assuming the worst and really convincing themselves to play small because of something that was out of their control.
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I would really encourage you to remember our story and use that dream even if you had like a failure, quote, unquote, in your past to use it really as a reminder of what a capacity to dream you actually have and to ensure that as you go forward in your second, your third, your fourth, your fifth, your sixth, your 100th attempt, that you stay true to the belief that one of these is going to hop and that you learn from each of these and you grow from each of these.
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Yeah, failure is not the end.
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It's a learning experience, and you actually can't succeed without failure, because you can't learn unless you fail.
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So failure is a stepping stone.
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It's not the end.
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And it's a necessary part of the recipe because if you look at virtually anyone who is considered a huge success story, the process is the moments where it's not working Course correct, it's not working Course correct, it's not working Course correct.
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Iterate, look again, reassess, evaluate and do they have any more luck than any of the rest of us?
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No, do they have any more connections?
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Not usually.
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It's usually that perseverance and that commitment simply to keep going and not give up.
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I have a belief that epic right, which is my thing epic is simply when your desire to create a miracle is greater than your desire to give in.
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That's beautiful, it's powerful, it's powerful.
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I got one more little.
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I got one little more comparison between the two.
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When I was 12, I started Taekwondo and Aikido.
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We'll just stop with that.
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So that's what I'm saying.
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There's a lot of similarities between our lives.
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Can I ask a question?
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Of course, and when Ren plays the character, a lot of the time the whole cast is like a character.
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What was your character?
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What?
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was your character in Rent.
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Oh, in Rent I was Coarse.
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Yeah, I was Coarse Dancer, but I would have.
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I wanted to play Roger more than anything in the world, yeah.
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So yeah, I didn't even work.
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I mean I like Mark, but actually Roger's a baritone tenor so I could hit those notes.
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Mark is more of a high tenor so I could hit some of those notes even if I wanted to.
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My very first crush, Adam Pascal.
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Adam Pascal.
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I saw the very first time I saw Rent with the original cast and I was, oh, it gets even better, because I didn't think we were going to see it.
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But Rent is the first set of the first play that they put on, where they did what they called rent rush, where you go in like five o'clock before the eight o'clock curtain and you get in line and you get a raffle ticket and if you win and if you get chosen, they raffle off the front row.
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Now at the, at the n, at the Niederlander theater, the front row is not actually the greatest of seats, because you're kind of looking up like this right, it's not the greatest seats, it's still.
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They're still good, don't get me wrong.
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But I ended, we didn't.
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I ended up getting a pair of tickets and I literally I could have reached up and touched their toes when they were on the edge of the screen.
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Yeah, yeah, it was totally on a whim and it was cold and it was.
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But we're like, oh, we're going to see, we're going to find out, we at least got to try.
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We at least got to try, because you couldn't get tickets.
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I mean, it was just no way.
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I mean you're talking about?
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You're talking about Adam Pascal and I mean, and all of them, they were just, they were just amazing, and I'm losing.
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I totally blanked out where the rest of them?
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But I usually can rattle them off like this so, but yeah, so, but anyway.
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Yeah.
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Anthony Rapp, the guy that plays on on the irrefutable new program that was also in Law and Order Forever, jesse Jesse, not Jesse Spencer.
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No, not Jenny, jesse Owens.
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But you won't figure it out.
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We will figure it out, warren Broward, if you are listening to this podcast.
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We want you to put in the comments who is it that we can't?
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figure out right now.
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I have a funny story.
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On the way to my high school we were singing La Valenne and it's the opera that my friends based on, and then my nephew just that couple of friends.
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I went to Sochi instead of doing the Irish short song that everyone went to and Tay Diggs walked in.
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Tay Diggs.
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Yes, it was so cool.
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I've never seen that before.
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I was a Lennon's.
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Oh, but La Boheme is great.
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I have a friend who still lives in New York.
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She studied at the Manhattan School of Music and he played in, and I used to go to New York all the time to go watch him because he was at.
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He was at the Lincoln Center and he was performing with the New York City Opera.
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So I saw him play in La Boheme, and La Boheme is amazing, absolutely amazing, but nothing like a little bit better than that.
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But anyway, god, we could talk about this stuff forever and I bet you, even though we're letting this go, I'm sure people are going to get a kick out of it.
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They usually do so.
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Okay, you had skylar, and where are you living at this point?
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So at this point we were living in Tampa.
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So we moved here to Tampa after living in New York City, which is where my oldest son was born, and so now we're here in Tampa.
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And Skylar's middle name because her dad was Japanese, so her middle name literally means happiness.
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In Japanese it is Sachi.
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And so we were here and Sky was fearless from the outset.
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I mean, by the time she was like five years old she had broken both arms twice.
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So at least she was fair, she was a monk and bar queen, and the only problem is that every now and then they got wet, which and unfortunately I was never with her, or maybe unfortunately when she broke her arm I would get the call.
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When she broke her arm, I would get the call, and sometimes it would be 26 voice messages from my mom going Meredith, where are you?
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Like when I would be at a conference out of town, or it would just be the Montessori, like Miss Meredith.
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I'm so sorry to call you.
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I think Skyler had it.
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I will let you know.
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Great to the orthopedic, yeah.
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I can't even imagine.
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And did you have the same orthopedist that saw her every single time?
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Oh, yes.
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And we had gone through all the cute little designs that were available for the cast.
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I mean the bright colors, the tie-dye, that teddy bear, they oh, that was right, they were out of it.
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That's a big disappointment, almost worth going for number five.
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But I had to cut her off at that point I was like the nose yeah, skylar, this is starting to get a little expensive.
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But now that I think about it, we should like we should go over to the coast guard place over here and tell them that they have to rename a ship and call it the ss arakawa oh yeah for sure, for sure but you know, sky outside, I was fearless, not only physically, but also just she.
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We had a turning point where I actually her dad and I were no longer together and I found myself in an abusive relationship.
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In fact, abusive relationship number one of two, thank you very much.
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In fact, abusive relationship number one of two, thank you very much.
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Another lesson to your viewers that you can definitely overcome that, and that's a whole nother topic here, but it is one that should ultimately end up being empowering to you as you get beyond it.
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But it gave me the opportunity because I was still very much.
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It drew me back into learning how some people dealt with formidable challenges and emerged as bigger, bolder versions of themselves, while some people were absolutely crushed.
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And so it was that really immersion back into the differentiating factor was always the inner game.
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It was always came back to the inner game.
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And so I went kind of back to that root of the Eastern medicine, the Aikido, all that, and I had a conversation with Skylar after one really kind of uncomfortable moment with this one particular man and really reinforced to her that just because people are quote unquote grown up doesn't mean that they don't have their own challenges and their own issues and that their issues are reflection on you.
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And it was like an unfolding for her, because at this point I really started listening to a lot of Abraham Hicks, esther, Hicks.