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And welcome back to Life-Changing Challengers.
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My name is Brad Minus and hopefully you already know that by all the other episodes that you've listened to.
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I am really lucky to have Lynn Weimar with me today.
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She's an author, weight loss coach.
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She's also a nurse and has a master's of nursing as well.
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So, lynn, welcome.
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How are you today?
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I'm doing great, brad, thank you for having me on your show.
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Oh, I'm thrilled because, as you'll find out pretty soon, we have a lot in common, so I'm really excited about that.
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Lynn, I ask the same thing to everybody.
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I'd just like to, if you can tell us about your childhood, where you were born, where you were raised, what was a compliment to your family, what was the environment like while you were growing up, and give us just a little insight.
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I was born and raised in the Seattle Washington area and I have one brother and one sister.
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I felt like my family was pretty stable and I felt fairly secure, but I had this situation of Glenn was loved, terry was ignored and Greg was hated.
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And I was the oldest, so I felt like my childhood was pretty good and I knew I needed to walk on eggshells around my mom, but I didn't see it fully from my brother's perspective or even my sister's perspective, and so just hearing that and connecting with that as an adult it colors my view of my childhood and my growing up, and I was very close to my dad.
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But it was just something that I look back on with mixed emotions, so I'll leave it at that.
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Hindsight's kind of 20-20 when we start looking with our adult eyes right.
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Yeah.
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So you were in Seattle.
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So you went to high school.
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Were you a jock?
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Were you one of the cheerleaders?
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Were you one of the popular kids?
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I was not one of the popular kids.
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I was very quiet.
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Wallflower wanted to be invisible and just blend into the background, and that's pretty much what I did.
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Articulars no.
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I tried track a couple of times and I knew I was slow.
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I did it once in high school and once in college and I would overtrain and get injured and my injury of choice was shin splints.
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And it was because I was very tall.
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And one of the coaches told me later that it was because the muscles hadn't caught up with the bone so it would tend to separate and cause me a lot of pain and cut short my hopes of being a runner.
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I never thought I would be a professional not professional, but competent runner, a fast runner or anything like that.
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I just wanted to run, I just enjoyed that activity, so that was pretty much.
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It never lasted long.
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The one time I tried it in high school and the one time I tried it in college, the same thing happened both times and I dropped out.
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That's not a very good pedigree there.
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That's what happened.
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Reaction from a coach.
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But now that you've had this training in the human body and as we just said, about looking back with adult eyes, do you think he was right?
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Do you think that was a pretty good diagnosis.
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Of the muscles and the bones.
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Yeah.
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No, shin splints happen to beginner runners, oh yeah, because they're so gung ho.
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You just need time, your body needs time to adapt and adjust.
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And so I would say the flaw in the system was OK, go run, or just go run five miles, go run 10 miles out on the pavement and that's how you build up.
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And if you want to keep up and not be the slowest one which I didn't particularly want to be the slowest one I figured I would be.
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But I'll tell you what really.
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The shin splints were excruciatingly painful.
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But here's what was more painful for me was the track coach, was also the math teacher and he one day we had to run we called them 880s back then 880 yards.
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We had to run something like 8, 880s after a pretty big warm up, and I didn't know how I was going to be able to do that.
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That seemed really hard to me.
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So I ran my 8.80s and my last one was exactly four minutes, 4.00.
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And so we all meet in this classroom, maybe the next day or that day, I don't remember.
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The coach has it on an overhead projector.
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He has all of our times for all of our 880s, for the boys and girls were together because it was title line and he had all these numbers up there.
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Guess who had?
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The only one that had a four in front of it, it was me.
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I was the slowest one.
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Now I of the guys in the classroom there really good runner looks up at that overhead projector screen and says four minutes.
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Who ran it in four minutes?
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And I, just I was.
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I could have just fell through the floor.
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I was devastated and that was my last.
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That was my last day of track.
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I was putting up with the shin splint pain up until that point and then I never looked back until I tried it again in college.
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But yeah, Kids are cool.
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We were just and I look back at it now and I and so I'm a I'm a high school cross country and track coach.
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Yeah, the kids, even they're better than they were when I was a kid.
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But of course, I coach at a private school, not a public school.
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But they still can be, even when they think they're just kidding around.
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They could still be pretty cruel.
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I don't feel bad about that.
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So did you go to college right out of high school?
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I did.
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I majored in English and I would have maybe gone toward a healthcare career, but I considered myself to be very bad in math and science.
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So that's what.
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I did.
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You tried track in college.
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That didn't work.
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You got through college, graduated.
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Then what happens to Lynn?
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Got married before I got an English degree, which I had been told.
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Anytime anyone would ask me what I was majoring in college and I said English.
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They would say, oh, you're going for your MRS degree.
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Actually, that was not my intention, but that is what happened.
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We had six kids.
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We went into Christian ministry.
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You had six.
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Yeah, oh, okay.
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I homeschooled them up in the mountains of Idaho for the last 20 years of that range.
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Oh, okay, we're getting whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on.
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Where did the planterist end out?
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Here it was.
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She's talking about being a wallflower.
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She's got going on thinking that her life's kind of dull and all of a sudden, whoa, six kids moves to Idaho in the mountains and homeschools.
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There's got to be some stuff uncovered here.
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We got to talk.
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First of all, tell me about the compliment of the kids.
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I have the most amazing, brilliant kids Okay.
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Three boys, three girls, four boys.
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I have five boys and one girl.
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Five Boys were the mellow ones and my daughter was known as the wildfire of the family, but she's very precious, sweet, very compassionate so so that by you saying that you got married, probably she was I'm thinking college sweetheart I met him in college.
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Yes, all right excellent listen you did, and you said christian ministry.
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So that's great.
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So, yeah, no, that's fabulous.
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We need more of that.
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I wish we could.
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I.
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It's one of those things that I believe is things that we're missing here, in this environment that we're in right now, is good nuclear families that really take pride in either serving God or serving some other cause.
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I had my ideals of what it was going to be and I had all my dreams and just this godly Christian family and we're homeschooling and we're raising kids to reach their full potential and all of these kinds of things.
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But unfortunately, it ended up being all about appearances and reputation, because my husband was not a pastor per se, but it was a faith support ministry ministry and he had the idea that in order for God to provide for us, we needed to be perfect, and so things looked very different at home than they did when we all went to church on Sunday, than they did when we all went to church on Sunday.
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It made it a very difficult environment, I would say.
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All right, can you expound a little bit on that, just so we get an idea of what's when you step into or when you step out of this, where you were going, what you're coming from?
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If people want to, that's fine.
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No, no, I'm happy to share it all I'm.
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Yeah, I don't know sure what you're asking, but so you had a public persona and a private persona, and the public persona was perfect.
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It was this perfect christian family, right?
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What's going on?
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Because you mentioned that it was very different within the country of your home.
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Yes, thank you.
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Yes.
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So a lot of, a lot of lengthy lectures.
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That would be very cutting to a child's psyche psyche.
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And me being a more withdrawn type of person, not liking conflict being, I was more closed off in myself.
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I'd see a lecture coming, or even a discussion, and I would retreat, I would leave because I didn't want to hear it.
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I got to the point where I knew I couldn't do anything about it.
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I would say one time I said to my husband I don't believe that you should be disciplining the children in anger.
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That you should be disciplining the children in anger is what I said and he says I disagree.
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And it was very much emotion driven, which was so different than my ideal of what, of how to raise children, and they were always in trouble.
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They were always getting spanked or scolded for very minor things, and the religion was used against us.
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I will include myself in with the children.
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If one of the children expressed an interest in spiritual things, which was of course, expected of us, it would be.
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And then there's some infraction.
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You said you wanted to follow God, you said, and it would be hung over our heads and I went very underground in my relationship with God.
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It was like I don't even want to go there, and so it was very much the opposite of what I had envisioned Christian marriage to be.
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It sounds like he weaponized religion to cause emotional abuse.
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That is what it was, and I went into protection mode, trying to protect them as much as I could and trying to protect myself as much as I could.
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And my daughter I hope I can even say this she loved and loves her brothers so much and one of them getting in trouble for her was worse than herself getting in trouble and she was a fireball and she was not afraid of standing up to him, to my husband, share her father, and I just knew every time I just knew it was going to get ugly because he was not going to back down.
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But she was going to tell it like it is and it was scary.
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It was scary, yeah, yeah, I still.
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Just I have to let her know that she was right, she did the right thing so uh for it.
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Yeah, what was her name?
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Again, I'm sorry her name was.
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Her name is megan megan.
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So where did megan lie in the span of six?
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She's third, yeah, okay, so she's Okay.
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So she's a middle child, so she's got.
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So I go, megan, between having younger, younger brothers and older brothers yeah, she's got both sides.
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That she's that she wanted to protect.
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Yeah, good for her.
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Yeah.
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But okay.
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So this story's turning out a little different than you first expected.
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When I said no-transcript.
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Same situation right now and now.
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You just talked about that, which is where I want to go, because I want to know, I want people to know and us to know, and I'm curious myself is what happened for you to get out of that?
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Was that something that you initiated or?
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Yeah, I actually.
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Yeah, I I actually encouraged my older kids to leave home at younger ages than I normally would have, and so my oldest went to college at age 17.
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My next one joined the military at age 18.
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And then Megan was 17.
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Nathan was actually 15.
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He left at 15?
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He went, and he because we lived out in the mountains and he was going to college.
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He started college at age 15 what?
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And so his older siblings had a house in, or they were renting a house near the college there in boise, and so I let him go, and maybe it was when he was 16 that he did that.
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I don't know, but he started college at 15.
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That's incredible.
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Yeah, yeah, and I just didn't like them being in that environment, and so I know a lot of people who were raising their eyebrows and saying why are these kids leaving home so early?
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And I wanted to facilitate that, but and I don't know if it was the right thing but your public persona was perfect.
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Yeah, your public persona, you were perfect.
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Of course, to everybody else.
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They're thinking why are they leaving home so early?
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If they're such this perfect, christian loving family, why does she want to kick them out so fast?
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and so I.
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I had my two youngest sons still at home and they were 14 and 17 at the time and I'd had people saying to me because I was starting to share more what I was going through as a wife, and they were saying when are you going to leave?
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At what point are you going to be done being treated like this?
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And I laid out some criteria for myself.
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When he starts doing this thing that he used to do, because we've been the gamut of working through this if he starts yelling at the younger kids the way he used to treat the older kids, or if he starts treating me the way he used to treat the older kids and he starts calling me names and yelling at me, I won't be able to handle that.
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I will need to leave and and yelling at me I won't be able
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to handle that I will need to leave.
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And I have a question, and this is and I'd like you to take a just a step outside of yourself just for a second, and it's just something I'm so curious about.
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Okay, and again you don't want to answer not a big deal, oh no, so in that, in that, in that environment.
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Okay, and again you don't want to answer not a big deal, oh no, so in that, in that, in that environment.
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Okay, so you know that you're basically being emotionally abused, you're being a name called and all that, but you married this guy.
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You must've.
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You married him for a reason.
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There had to be some point.
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It's not still?
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And that's my question If you still love this person, do you look past all this?
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Wait a second, that's still the man I love.
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I still love him, I just what I don't love is his actions.
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Do you separate that, or is?
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Was there a point where I'm in this for the kids?
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I want to make sure the kids are safe and this is the only way that I know how the way we were treated for so many years and did not want to despise him.
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I really that was important to me, but I was just surviving.
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I was really just surviving and I reached a point where all of the things I could think of to try to heal the marriage I had done.
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I had tried them all, and every single time it only served to make the situation worse for me, because in order to do something about it, I would have to step forward and actually say my point of view of what was happening, and that was extremely scary for me and I was punished for it.
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It was not something that I should be saying.
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It was very disrespectful, very ungodly, and I was asking for divorce.
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I was asking for it.
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And so when I reached a point of, okay, I've done everything, I've tried everything, I've gotten help from other people, advice from other people and I've tried their advice, I've tried everything and nothing's working.
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That's a mild word that it's just not working.
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But I wasn't looking for anything for myself.
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A lot of marriages end because the needs aren't being met or there's not good communication or the love has fizzled out something like that.
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For me, no, it was not any of those things I just wanted to survive, any of those things I just wanted to survive.
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I just wanted to hang on and hold it together.
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That was all I cared about and I reached a point forward to is the next 40, 50 years of just hanging on, just trying to fly under the radar of marriage that other Christian couples had, and he started accusing me of a lot of things but of putting up walls against him, and so I could not win.
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I could not win.
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I was in a no-win situation.
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When you realized that, was that the turning point where you were just like hey yes, yes, except those things that I alluded to started happening more overtly.
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And so I woke up one morning it was the day after Mother's Day.
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Actually, to him, I was still in bed and he's standing there yelling at me and saying he didn't actually say you are a liar, you are evil, but he's saying what you say is lies, what you're doing is evil.
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And he's yelling this and I'm going.
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I just woke up like what I.
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I don't even know what you're talking about and I'm laughing now.
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But I was terrified, I was shaking, and then I thought, after things had he got, he went to work and all this, and and I thought, okay, this is it.
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I said that this was the line and I'm going to leave, and I couldn't do it.
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I could not make myself do it.
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And then it then, a couple months later, this same scenario happens again.
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And then a month later, it happens again and I still I couldn't leave.
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My resolve was growing stronger that I needed to.
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Finally, so, seven months almost after that, that first day after Mother's Day thing, I said to my sister done, I'm just really done.
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I cannot do this anymore.
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And she had no idea.
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She saw the happy Christian family.
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She didn't like my husband, but she saw this front and that's all she knew.
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And so it was a bit of a shock, for she and I went out to coffee when we were, we were actually on vacation with them and I just said I just cannot do this anymore.
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And just a few days later, when we returned home from vacation, I actually fled.
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I actually we were, we'd gone to church and I told a friend of mine who was she was going they were mutual friends that our kids, the two youngest, were going to go over to their house after church and visit and so, since they were going to be doing that and we were going to be kidless, my husband says, okay, we need to have a date, we're going to have a date.
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And I knew what a date meant and I knew that I was done, I wasn't going to put up with, I wasn't going to play the game anymore.
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And I told this friend yeah, I am one altercation away from leaving and he wants to have a date after church.
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And her eyes got really big because she had known, she knew what was happening and it was just the two of us and we were in this, his place of ministry, and he read a couple of chapters from the Bible to me, a couple of chapters from the Bible to me, and you could probably guess what one of the chapters was Ephesians 5.
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And he went on and read Ephesians 6 too, so as not to just single out Ephesians 5, about how I should be behaving as a wife.
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Basically was the idea.
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And he pulled out a book that he had given me for Christmas on marriage, because he really wanted to work on our marriage, and so we read together the first chapter of this book and it was about this couple and the husband was very much like my husband, except that he was also physically abusive.
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And the big climax of the chapter is the husband picks up the wife and throws her across the room.
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I don't remember anything else of this chapter of this book, but he asked me what I thought of the chapter and I said this is very much how I'm feeling, this is very much how I feel how the wife was portrayed.
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And he says I've never thrown you across the room.
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And I said no, you haven't, but this is how I feel I'm being treated.