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All right and welcome back to Life-Changing Challengers, and I am very honored today to have Lucy Potasnik on the show.
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How are you doing, Lucy?
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I am doing wonderful, excited and grateful to be here.
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And I am super grateful to have you here.
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So Lucy is a national speaker, a coach and a serial entrepreneur, which I'm super excited to hear a little bit more about that.
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So, lucy, can you tell us a little bit about where you grew up?
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What was the complement of your home?
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You know brothers and sisters and what was your environment like growing up?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So I like to say that I was a little girl with a big dream.
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I grew up in just outside of Detroit and like the suburbs of Detroit, and always had this desire, this passion of horses.
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And like Napoleon says, all achievement starts with a burning desire can say with absolute certainty that from the time that I can remember, I've been absolutely obsessed with horses.
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Every single day I would beg my dad, please buy me a horse.
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But I mean, it was very much so like middle class family.
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My parents were blue collar workers, my mom had two factory jobs, so the idea of horses was completely just out of the realm of possibilities.
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And so every day my dad would tell me like I love you, sweetheart, but unfortunately our family doesn't have the means to buy horses.
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But I never gave up on that dream, to the point where I would pray at night.
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I would say like, dear God, please let me just dream that I'm riding a horse in my dreams, so that way it feels like it in real life.
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Because, oh my gosh, brad, I can't tell you how many times I left and I'd be swinging my right leg over to sit on the saddle in my dream and then, poof, I'd wake up and I'd be like, oh my God, I was so close.
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So the day that I turned 16 was the day that I got my driver's license, and the same day that I created a Craigslist ad and I said I will ride your horse for free.
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And that essentially led to a bunch of yahoos calling me with their unbroke, green broke horses that hadn't been ridden, touched or handled in five to 10 years.
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And I'm like this confident, cocky 16 year old with a brand new driver's license, like, yeah, I'll come out driving all over God's country.
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Things was worse.
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Next thing, you know, I'm getting bucked off, thrown off, flipped over on top of I mean, you name it.
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I experienced it, but I never gave up and every single time I got thrown off, I was just the happiest thing to crawl right back up in the saddle.
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Dude.
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It was very much so one of those failing forward moments.
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I am the writer I am today not because I had any formal education or instruction, but it's because I failed so many times and all these crazy horses showed me I know today.
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And so if you ask any successful business owner, entrepreneur, they're going to tell you no, I wasn't lucky, I just failed more times than the average Joe.
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And every single time you fail, you learn from your mistakes, no matter how many times life throws you a curveball or how many times you eat dirt or unexpected circumstances or obstacles are thrown your way.
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That relentless pursuit, that laser focus to stay just laser focused on your goal and not give up.
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So that was really what helped me get from where I am to where I am now.
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Wow, I mean that's an amazing story and I salute your desire like having that really big, big desire to do something, and my clients need that focus as well.
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But I do want to cut back just a little bit.
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One question for me is did you have any brothers or sisters that shared this dream with you?
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No, actually funny story is I'm the only one in my family with this horse bug, if you will, because I do have a brother and a sister, but they're each like my mom had a child every decade, so it's kind of crazy, but I'm the baby.
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So my mom had my sister when she was 15.
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And then my mom had my brother when she was 24 and then my mom had me when she was 34.
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So it's like my mom had a kid essentially almost every 10 years and they have the same dad and I have a different dad.
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So technically they're like my half brother and sister are you close with them at all?
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I'm really close with my sister.
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She's absolutely wonderful.
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Me and my brother are not super close.
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Well, he's 20 years older.
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So yeah, that makes sense.
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Well, actually my sister's the one who's 20 years older than my brother.
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Oh, that's right, yeah, but the cool slash crazy thing is that my mom was pregnant with me at the same time as my sister was pregnant with my niece Ashley.
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So my mom was 34 pregnant with me.
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My sister was 19 pregnant with my niece Ashley.
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So my mom was 34 pregnant with me.
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My sister was 19 pregnant with my niece Ashley.
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So me and Ashley grew up like sisters slash best friends.
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She was my niece, but we're like sisters.
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Oh my God, that's crazy.
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Oh yeah, that's my niece.
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Oh, you two look like you're the same age we are.
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That's all right let's fast forward back to you getting on these horses where you've never ridden before and you're just like I just want to be around.
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I'm gonna go and I'm gonna exercise these horses for these people.
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Did you ever get seriously injured, getting fucked off?
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you know, what is wild is that, despite the fact that I have ridden thousands of horses at this point probably because I was selling on average 250 horses a year for the last 15 years so yeah, thousands of horses I've sat, and those are just the ones I've sold, not even including the ones that I've hopped on to see if they're broke or not.
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Thank you, jesus, I've never been seriously injured.
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I believe that part of that is divine protection and that when you follow your passion and pursue what you were meant to do in this life, there is some sort of I don't know if you want to call it magic, or blessing or divine protection, but I like to say that I have an army of angels that are always watching over and giving me guidance.
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That is cannot be more true because I have to tell you so I grew up kind of around horses.
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I used to go to a summer camp.
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It was called White Pines Ranch, it was in Illinois, it was in Northern Illinois and that's what you're.
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You were there at the camp to learn about horses in Riddertrop.
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So we rode horses three times a day and we learned how to groom them, we learned how to shoe them, we learned how to feed them, we mucked out their stalls.
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I think we paid them to be their labor Either way.
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Do you know how good.
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Right, but they were livery horses.
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They were trained to look at the tail in front of them.
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So most of the rides were very you know.
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They'd allow us to canter and we'd gallop a little bit here and there, but basically it was very tame because those horses were trained.
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Except for the one ride we went through and we went right through a hornet's nest and three of the horses got stung.
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I was on one of them and cut I mean my neck, oh, cut my neck.
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I flew off the horse.
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I got right back on it but just like you did but I did I ended up getting flown off the horse.
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I didn't get seriously injured.
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But here I was on a livery horse and here you were with no experience whatsoever jumping on these wild horses.
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Like you said, they were unbroken.
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So I yeah, that is definitely divine intervention.
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Yes, so that's.
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That is incredible.
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And obviously I'm not even stating the part where it was that desire that you had to be around horses.
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So let's give a couple of vocabulary words.
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Is it just a horse broker?
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Yeah, I would just say, just because I buy, train and sell horses.
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And so that's what I went on to do.
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I sold horses all throughout high school, all throughout college.
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I graduated college, got scooped up into the corporate world.
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I did the corporate world for three years.
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I had the world's worst boss, the most negative, pessimistic, and then I ended up quitting my corporate job, which was, hands down, one of the scariest decisions I've ever made to go ahead and follow my passion and pursue horses full time.
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But I can tell you that that was, hands down, one of the most rewarding and gratifying decisions.
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And there has not been one day that I have regretted taking the leap of faith in myself and taking a chance on myself to leave the comfort and security of corporate America behind and going on to now buy, trade and sell horses all over the country.
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And I accidentally opened up one of Michigan's largest public trail writing companies just because I love, like, trail riding is my favorite thing and I wanted to just share it with the world.
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I wanted to share it with my friends and my family.
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And next thing, you know, word of mouth spread.
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And here we are, seven years later, where we now we offer a whole array of different fun experiences, like we have meditation rides, we have Dairy Queen rides, where we take people to Dairy Queen on the horses to get ice cream.
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We ride to the Huron River, we do full moon rides, so we have a lot of fun.
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But everything that I've done has really unfolded very naturally and very organically.
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And again, I don't say that like, oh, look at me, I'm so lucky, I'm so blessed.
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Yes, I'm blessed, but it has absolutely nothing to do with luck and it has everything to do with leaning in and just unshakable faith and really building that belief of yourself and knowing that you are worthy, you are capable.
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If I knit, that means that you can do it and that your audience can do it.
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I am a firm believer in lead and inspire by example, so if I can do it, then that's why I'm on a mission to positively impact and inspire millions of people around the world, teaching them.
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I've been able to essentially create a whole toolbox of different strategies and techniques, essentially how to lever the laws of the universe by explaining that we live in a vibrational universe and understanding quantum physics and allowing people to very intentionally create the life of their dreams, and so that really where it landed me today is now.
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I'm excited to just teach people how to intentionally craft the life that they've always desired to have.
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Okay, so you make up some great points and I had this idea of going back again, but I don't think I'm going to.
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I think I'm going to keep rolling forward.
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How does quantum physics something as scientific and has rules?
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How does that get you to?
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You know, manifestation and using the energy to create what you want?
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Oh, that's Science, and I'm going to use the slang it's science and woo-woo.
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How do those merge?
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Yeah, that's why I like love this so much and I'm like so excited about it, because I remember when I was 18, I saw the movie the Secret for the first time and it talks about the law of attraction and, oh my gosh, you can be, do, have anything that you can think of.
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All you have to do is believe in it.
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And I'm like, wow, this is so exciting, this is so empowering.
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And I remember I'd be showing up to my corporate job where I had the most miserable boss and I had to travel with this guy all over the country to different manufacturing plants and I'm not kidding you, brad, he would literally list off every single thing that could go wrong.
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And I'm like, justin, my dear, it does not serve you to constantly focus on what you don't want, because where your focus goes, your energy flows, and what you talk about and you think about, you bring about, you attract to you.
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So the fundamental idea of quantum physics is essentially that we live in a vibrational universe where all things move and all things vibrate.
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So the number one rule or the number one law of the universe is the law of vibration All things move and all things vibrate.
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And if you think about it.
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What's everything made of?
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It's made of atoms, it's made of matter.
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These atoms are made of electrons, protons, neutrons, electrons that are spinning around, and, depending on the speed or the frequency that electron is spinning around, the atom is going to determine if it's a solid gas or liquid.
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And so when we take a step back and we start to think about this, it's like okay, well, everything is made of these atoms, everything is made of energy.
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That means we are energetic beings, which means that we are energetic.
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We interpret vibrations.
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So all five of our senses you think about our sound or we think of our hearing.
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When we are interpreting a sound or a noise, we are interpreting the vibration or the frequency of the air that's moving towards us.
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And the same thing is when we're looking at light, of the air that's moving towards us.
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And the same thing is when we're looking at light, our eyes are interpreting the wavelengths of light that our eyes are capable of capturing.
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Same thing with taste, touch and smell.
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They're all vibrations.
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And so, therefore, we are vibrational by nature.
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And when we start to understand that everything is vibration, then we start to understand that our ideas are nothing more.
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Our ideas, the thoughts that we think, the words that we speak all carry energy to them, a frequency to them, and the most important part of the key to all of this is understanding that like attracts like, and we don't attract what we want, we attract what we are.
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So where some people kind of go sideways on this whole law of attraction business is they think that all they have to do is make a list of everything that they want to create and poof.
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It's going to just like, voila, flow into their experience.
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And as great as that is, you have to do the work because you have to level up, you have to raise your vibration very intentionally.
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That way, you are a vibrational match of whatever it is, whatever desire you would like to attract, create or experience.
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And so that's what I teach people is how to very intentionally raise their vibration.
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And I know that might sound a little bit woo, but the first.
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So we have a 16-week program that still allows people to rewire their subconscious mind, transform their identity and start to take massive action towards their goals.
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And the first pillar is energy and really understanding that energy is our highest form of currency, that energy is everything.
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Why is it important?
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You are where you are today based on every single decision that you've made up until this point.
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So therefore, we can confidently say decision shapes our destiny.
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Well, if we know that decision shapes our destiny, what influences every single decision that we make?
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It's our state of mind, our emotional state, the energy that we're choosing to show up in, and so that's why it's so important when I talk about accessing peak emotional states.
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So I ask people, when was the last time you were in a peak emotional state?
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When was the last time you felt so excited, so passionate, where you just felt unstoppable and on fire.
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You could hurl over any obstacle that's presented in your way?
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And that is a peak emotional state.
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And you are going to make drastically different decisions when you're operating in a peak emotional state versus if you're operating in a lower vibrational state, which are going to be things like anger or fear, or lack or guilt.
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When you're operating in lower vibrational states, you're not going to take the same actions or make the same decisions as you would if you're at a higher vibrational state.
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So that's why it's so important to understand that when you're able to recognize and identify the energy that you're showing up in, and then you're able to shift that, you're able to change, that, you're able to alter and elevate your state, you're essentially opening the door to a whole new like essentially a whole new reality of people, places, things that are going to excite, satisfy and delight you, and that's why I like to say we're only ever one decision away from a completely different life, and it's all about understanding physics and the energy that we're choosing to show up in Life is 10% about what happens and 90% of how we respond.
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That's powerful.
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So are you basically saying so, being at that higher energy level?
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And what you were saying was so okay.
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So the first thing that popped into my mind was that, okay, you probably make all your decisions while you're riding a horse, because that's your passion, that's where you would, that's probably where you're at the most elevated frequency.
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Am I on?
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track, I would say so there's a whole toolbox of different things that I like to empower people with that's going to essentially elevate their state, raise their vibration and not everybody is going to have access to a horse and be able to do that.
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But one thing that I do, I'm a huge advocate of and I highly recommend, is kickstarting every single day with a meditation, and so that's one of my non-negotiables.
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So, especially if I need to make a big decision, like a really important decision, I will absolutely quiet my mind and just spend, whether it's 5, 10, 15 minutes in meditation just to ground myself, just to center myself, because the thing is, on average, we think 60,000 to 70,000 thoughts a day, and 90% of those thoughts are all negative.
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So the beat of meditation is it actually allows us to quiet our mind, and when we quiet our mind, we let go of all of the worry, all of the stress, we release all of the limiting beliefs, everything that's weighing us down.
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We do that, our vibration is immediately going to rise, and when we do that, the other thing is we become aware of the thoughts that we're thinking, and the importance of the power of awareness is important because if we want to change anything in our life.
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We have to become aware of the unconscious patterns that have been running our life this entire time.
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Awareness is what precedes all change.
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We can't change what we're unaware of, and the definition of meditation is to become aware of oneself.
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And so when you're in a quieted state where you're just focused on your breathing, eventually, like people always say, like Lucy, I tried to meditate, it's just not for me, I just can't do it, my mind won't stop racing.
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And I'm like Lucy, I tried to meditate, it's just not for me, I just can't do it, my mind won't stop racing.
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And I'm like perfect, that means you're doing it right, you're not dead, your mind's not just supposed to like instantly turn off, but it's a practice.
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And so what happens is a thought will come in, and as you're breathing and you're focusing on your breath, a thought will come in, and it's in the recognition of that thought that you can be like oh, hey, look, a thought's there.
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And then you can lovingly release it.
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And then five, 10, 30 seconds later, another thought is bound to show up, and instead of falling in the rabbit hole of like, oh, I got to go to the doctor's appointment and then I got to pick my kids up from school and then I got to run to the grocery store Wait, stop, oh, I'm thinking again, oh, there's those thoughts.
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And then stop, lovingly release them, return back to your breath.
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And it's this practice of recognizing the thoughts that flow into your mind and then begin to understand that we are not our thoughts, we are the observers of our thoughts.
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And then we can start to question every single thought that enters our mind and we can ask ourselves is this the thought that serves us, or is this a belief that serves us?
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Because, at the end of the day, a belief is nothing more than a thought that we keep thinking, and we can change our beliefs at any given time.
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But the problem with so many people is that so many people, instead of questioning or challenging the limiting beliefs that they have, these unconscious beliefs, they defend them and they fight for their limitations.
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The only limitations that we have are the limitations that we place on ourselves.
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And so, therefore, if we begin to shift our paradigm, shift our thinking and start to question what's really possible for ourselves, that's when we start to essentially transform our identity and start to really take massive action towards our goals.
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Wow, yeah, that's something else.
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So I'm one of those people like, I'm one of those people as far as meditation goes, I have gone down the path.
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I've read, you know, numerous about Zen and Buddhist meditation because I felt like, all right, well, I'm going to learn it, I'm going to learn from the masters, I'm going to learn from the people who developed it and started it and got to Nirvana, right.
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So, you know, I, so I'm one of those people and I'm like and they literally have a name for it, called monkey mind, when you can't stop the thoughts that are going in, and yeah, so, and you seem like, you know, you are such a positive and you look very type, you sound very type.
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You know how long did it take you to get to that point when you started meditating, to be able to quiet and then get to that point where you're able to feel like you've raised your frequency?
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It's been such a journey, brad, like I would say so.
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Like I said, I was 18 when I saw the Secret and then I graduated college at, I think, 22, 21 or 22, immediately got scooped up into the corporate world.
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While I was in the corporate world, I was.
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It was like life in the cube and I was doing these Excel spreadsheets okay, thousands and thousands of lines of Excel spreadsheet okay, and the whole time, from sunup to sundown, I'm typing in numbers in Excel.
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I had my headphones in and I was listening to Dr Wayne Dyer and so I was taking notes at the same time and I feel like his beautiful wisdom, like I'm so blessed been exposed to him at such a young age.
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Through the work of Dr Wayne Dyer, I ended up stumbling upon teachings of Abraham Hicks and then I went to my first Abraham Hicks workshop at 20.
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I don't remember I was 22 or 24.
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I, I was 22 and that was the first time I started meditating, and that literally because I was already in plot.
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I was already implementing everything that she was teaching in terms of like she really she explains things in a very beautiful way about how we live in a vibrational universe and basically the tips, tricks, the hacks and how to very intentionally create the life of your dreams.
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And a lot of her work is I've compiled all the different teachings, from Dr Rain Dyer to Jody Robbins and Mila, to all of these, all these people that I'm like, so obsessed with, and even Joe Dispenza, who I'm like, I love, love.
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And so meditation for me has been like there's so many different kinds of meditations and that's the other thing, and so there's like there's the guided meditation, there's the gratitude meditations, there's breath work, there's mantra meditations, and so what I do I actually have inside of my phone.
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I have like a whole gosh, I have like a whole catalog, if you will, of different meditations that I've basically collected over the years.
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It's like an arsenal of different meditations.
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So every single morning when I wake up, I'll just open up my little meditation, my notes, and I'll pick whichever meditation I want to do.
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So, whether I do, you know, three or four 10-minute meditations, or maybe I'll do 16-minute Jodha Spenza meditation, or maybe I'll do a 30-minute Dr Wayne Dyer meditation, they're all different kinds.
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And then I encourage everybody to just kind of try a little bit of going to a buffet and just trying a little bit and seeing what resonates the best with you and because everyone is going to make you feel a little bit different and sometimes, and like the more you do it, the more you do it, it's almost like there's different experiences.
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Sometimes you'll just feel like waves of energy flowing through you.
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Sometimes you feel like you're light, like you're floating.
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Dr Joe Dispenza really talks about when stepping into the and the reason why the unknown, you become no one and no time, nowhere and no thing.
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You become none of those things and you let go of your identity, of who you think you are, of your past, of all of your beliefs and you just let it all go and you just essentially step into what he calls the unknown.
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You step into the unified field.
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And when he explains that, when you become no one, nowhere and no time and no thing, you become everyone and every time and everything.
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And that means like you're like connecting to all that is, and so think that and so it's all exciting and it's like I said, it's all a unique experience.
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But essentially what I've discovered is that there have been a handful of days where my alarm doesn't go off and I wake up late and I'm like oh no, I like throw some clothes on and run out the door.
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I don't have time to meditate.
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Those are the days when you make sure you meditate, right, my fair share of times where I'm like, nope, don't have time for that, and I'll run out the door and I'm not even kidding you, brad and it's just like when you're so accustomed to meditating every single day.
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What you're doing when you're meditating is you're raising your vibration.
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When you raise your vibration, what you're doing is you're setting yourself up for success Because, like I said, you don't attract what you want.
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You attract what you are, and when you're vibrating at a super high level, you can only expanse people, places and things that are going to satisfy and excite you.
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And therefore, angry people, frustrated people, bad news, traffic jams, things that are going to upset you or whatever things that are like bad news from your boss, whatever it is, those things simply can't touch you, they can't find you and even if they do, they're not going to have the same effect.
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They're not going to rock you, they're not going to shake you, you're going to be like oh okay, thanks for letting me know.
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I'm not going to allow an outside or external circumstance affect how I'm feeling eternally, because I feel so good right now.
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I'm not going to allow something else to lower my vibe and bring me down, and so that's why, when you do this practice every single day, you're setting yourself up for success.
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So the one day that you forget to do it, it's like you're living in a totally different world, because when you meditate, you're essentially granting yourself access to higher vibrational playing fields.
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And so when you don't meditate which I've learned the hard way it's like all of a sudden you're in a traffic jam.
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All of a sudden you get a call with bad news.
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All of a sudden you're going to an appointment and you forgot your laptop, and now you have to drive all the way back home and get your laptop, or whatever it could be.
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And so now you drive all the way back home and get back up or whatever it could be.
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And so now you never miss a meditation, whatever you do, even if you're going to be late, it's okay.
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You roll on divine timing.
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I like to say that I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be, right here, right now, and all of the cooperative components of the universe are collaborating on my behalf.
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I need to touch, I need to step back just for a second, because you had said that you are not what you do, you are what you are.
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Or you said what was that saying?
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You don't attract.
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Yeah, you don't attract what you want, you attract what you are.
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Okay, you don't attract what you want, but you attract what you are.
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So okay.
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So let's say that.
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Okay.
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So all right, let's say I have a couple people.
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I have a couple people that you know that are looking for the, looking to qualify for the, for the Boston marathon.