Breaking Free from Anxiety & Fear with Daniel Packard's Approach

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and welcome back to another episode of life-changing challengers, and I am so grateful and honored today to have daniel packard on the podcast today.

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Hi, daniel, how you doing I am ready, I'm ready to change some mother effing lives brad.

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Anything about that I'm bringing it.

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so daniel is a uc berkeley engineer.

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He calls himself an inner engineer.

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He also is this is a very interesting title and this is where this episode is going to go.

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He's an anxiety solution pioneer.

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He has actually come up with a system to help people rid themselves of anxiety, of fear I mean gone Without drugs, the whole bit.

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He's got this reset.

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But we're going to get into that a little bit later because, of course, as we always start out here at Life Changing Challengers, daniel, can you tell us a little bit how you grew up, the complement of your family, where you grew up and what your environment was like growing up?

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I absolutely will, because it's important One, because what you just shared with your audience they're not going to believe.

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And so, telling where I grew up and I don't know what they call it the origin story of where this all came from.

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But I also just want to be real clear with your audience.

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We are going to be covering anxiety, but really it's anxiety and fear.

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And really, because some people will say, well, I'm not anxious.

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If you have fear or any pattern in your life where fear is a part of it and some of the behaviors that you're working on, you don't know this or you may know this, but it's actually a symptom of fear.

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So, if you don't have anxiety, but let's.

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If you're a perfectionist, if you're an overthinker, if you're a procrastinator, if you're a people pleaser, if you care what people think of you, insecure, doubt, any of those bad boys and or anxiety I'm going to explain a way for you to understand how, as Brad said, to be free of this no more managing, that's amateur hour how you can be free of these things permanently.

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So I just want to be clear what this is all about, because it's an innovative way of doing things and your audience isn't used to that.

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They're used to managing these things.

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So with that said my big, now I'll explain what was it?

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my family, and where I'm from?

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Yeah, where.

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When your compliment your family and what your childhood was like when you grew up?

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Well, I grew up in Berkeley, california, and I didn't know how nice it was because, just it was where I grew up.

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But I grew up in the Berkeley Hills.

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I had a view of the Golden Gate Bridge from my window and I remember bringing a girlfriend home to visit my parents and she was driving up the hill to my house and she went you grew up here.

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This is incredible.

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I thought no, it is, it's really pretty.

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It's really nice.

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We weren't.

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My dad was a professor, he was a physicist, so we were middle, upper, middle class, but we were surrounded by rich people because my parents bought their house early and then it skyrocketed.

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So we were surrounded and also my parents were very frugal, so everyone around us had BMWs and Audis and we had a 1969 Valiant because they don't break down, and it just ran forever and it was good.

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I liked it.

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My parents were also smart.

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Where they bought their house, we lived in the hills, so we had a view, but we weren't so high up and they told me they said if we were too high up then we'd have to drive you everywhere, and we didn't want to drive you everywhere.

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So if we lived halfway up the hills then you could get places with your bike, and they were right.

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I grew up right with my BMX and then a mountain bike just driving around and it was a beautiful place to live and my dad loved sailing so I got to sail on San Francisco Bay whenever I wanted.

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So logistically it was a good childhood, nice place.

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My parents were very good at providing logistically warm meal, roof over the house camp in the summer like logistically gold stars.

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Five star review on Yelp for my parents.

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But my dad being a scientist, they're very strong in the mind but not so much in the heart.

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So I grew up in a not mean or scary household but a confusing household because I was a sensitive kid in a house where feelings didn't exist and I'm sure I'm not alone.

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But yeah, it'll confuse a little child, especially a little Daniel.

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That's interesting.

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Yeah, I can imagine that, so it wasn't really touchy feely.

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Not even.

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I mean yeah again.

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No, I mean they.

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No, I mean they were kind, they were polite, but I never got the I love you, I'm proud of you ever.

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I mean maybe one would have trickled in, but I don't recall ever getting and I'm proud of you and I love you.

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And to the point where it started, I thought I was one of these kids that excelled at a lot of things and so everyone else would say, like great job, daniel, I get these awards and I would go home and just nothing, just crickets.

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And after a while I'm thinking, like most kids, our parents do the best they can, but some form of love and safety goes missing.

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And I started to think, like does my dad even love me?

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Like he's never said it.

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So I decided I came up with a plan which was to do something that I knew he'd be proud of, and then he'd say I'm proud of you and like I'd know he'd love me and that would be that.

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So my parents were very into me getting into college and so college applications were a big deal and I said, okay, this was my plan.

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I said battle, look great on a college application.

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I'll tell my dad.

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He'll say good job, I'll know he loves me.

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No reason for a therapist ever again.

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So I ran for class president.

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I won and I'm walking home all proud that I'd won and then I'm going to tell my dad I'm class president, he's going to say good job and, like, I'm going to know he loves me, and I walk in and he's standing there and I walk in all excited and I just look at him with all this excitement, enthusiasm, and I just say, hey, guess, who's class president?

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And he said, well, don't let it interfere with your homework.

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And I was like, come on, dude, I was like a softball pitch.

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He just had to say good job, like that.

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And I felt the pain of that moment.

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I mean it was.

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It scared me because I was like this is not according to script and this was not complicated, and it really, frankly, terrified me and hurt, as you can imagine.

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And in a last ditch of youthful, painful vulnerability, I just started crying.

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I really felt the pain and I was crying and I just looked at him and just looked at him and I said why can't you ever just say you're proud of me?

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And he says it's not my job to tell you when I'm proud of you.

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It's my job to tell you when you mess up.

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And I went like I didn't get what was going on.

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It was so confusing and hurtful.

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I short circuited but intuitively I was like A I'm pretty sure that's not great parenting and B you could do both.

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So, anyway, all I knew was a very scary, painful situation.

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Like many of us now, as I get older, I look back my dad's limited Like he can't, he's too wounded and he couldn't in that moment.

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But at that age I didn't know he couldn't.

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So what did I do?

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I did what all kids do.

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I'm like okay.

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So why is this happening?

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I didn't know.

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I didn't know to hold him accountable.

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So what do I do?

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I blame myself and I make up the belief that I'm not good enough, and that is what led to a lot of the problems in my life.

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But it's also the pain that led to me understanding how to allow other people to be free of this.

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So I will not give my dad gold stars on emotional high fives and celebration, but I am grateful to him because, as we all know, it is that pain that brings us to awareness, and that's what I'm helping people do now is heal from some of those wounds that get formed in childhood.

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We all know that.

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You don't need me to tell you like hey, did you know that what you're struggling with happened a long time ago?

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However, what we've developed is a system so that you can heal that, instead of like trying different things for years to just manage these symptoms.

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It's a system such that it's just you're free of it in a few weeks.

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That's the value of what we did.

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And before we start delving into that, because I have to step, we need to step back a little bit further, because we need to let Daniel's inner child brag a little bit, because you passed over the.

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Oh, I used to get awards and I did this and I got all these awards and we missed all that.

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I need to go back and hear some of what we're talking about.

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What did you do in high school?

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Was it sports?

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Was it mathletes?

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Was it chess?

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I mean, what awards were you getting?

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You talked about it.

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You just glanced over it.

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I'm like, come on, don't keep us in suspense like that well, thank you.

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thank you for uh.

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Well, let's see what were some awards, all right, well, one was I was in boy scouts and there were in our troop.

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There were these special awards just for our thing, and usually you would go for one of the awards.

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There was two awards and if you wanted to win one you really had to focus on one because, just for reasons I won't bore your audience, you really you would go for either one award or the other award and I was like I'm going for both.

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I'm going to be the Michael Phelps of this mofo, and nobody had ever done it before, because it was really tough to do.

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And I not only won one award that had to do with my camping abilities, but then there was leadership abilities, and I won both awards, which won two awards.

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Two had never been done in the history of our troop, too had never been done in the history of our troop.

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That was cool Class president in multiple years in a school of 3000.

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And what other awards did I get?

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This wasn't an award, but cool.

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Oh well, so I later found out I have a talent for looking at a system and finding the efficient way in the hack.

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It's both brilliant but also based on laziness, and so in my high school we didn't compete against other high schools, we competed between the other grades.

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So there were once a year during homecoming that I was a junior and we were running a competition with the seniors.

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But the seniors would always win because they had more resources and they were older, but they were going up with the seniors.

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But the seniors would always win because they had more resources and they were older, but you know they were going up against the animal.

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So again there were these five competitions and you never won all five because it was impossible.

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But I figured out how to win, I think four out of five, and some of the reasons I'm proud of.

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One was there was a canned food drive to see who could raise the most food for charity and we were behind by, I think, like 150 pounds.

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So I sent one of my people on my team to a bulk food and basically bought 100 pounds of dried beans to put us over the top and we won.

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Yeah, not my best work, but we won.

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Another one was so there would be a cheer and it was to see who could have the loudest cheer.

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Like the best cheer.

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You got like thousands of kids at be a cheer and it was to see who could have the loudest cheer, like the best cheer.

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You got like thousands of kids at an auditorium.

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It was to see who could get the loudest and the best cheer.

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So I, from watching every year, I noticed that there were good cheers.

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But when you've got 3 000 people in an auditorium, if it's because of the echo, if the cheer is really good, but but like too long, it just sounds like like on a t-shirt it looks great, but you got a thousand kids doing it in an echo chamber.

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It doesn't sound so good.

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So I thought, forget the cheer sounding good, let's just make it simple.

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So we were the class of 91.

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So 500, all we had to say was 90 and then one.

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So you got a thousand kids going, 90 and then one, 90, one, and the idea was to go from quiet to loud.

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So it just was 90, one, 90, one, 90, one, one.

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But it built this like cacophony of just like sound and noise and intensity and we won and I was always proud of that.

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So was there?

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Just, was there specific extracurriculars that you were involved in?

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Or was it like obviously it was a student council because you became class president, so obviously you were in student council.

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Was there anything else that you were that was an extracurricular that you were involved with?

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They were.

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I'm not so proud of them, but they were all based like maximizing lifestyle with the least amount of work, and that's one of them was I found out.

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So I hated Spanish, going to Spanish because it was the one thing that just being smart couldn't get you out of.

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You had to memorize all these words and my Spanish teacher was just psychotic.

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So I hated Spanish but I learned.

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If you're on the cross country team there, the meets you could skip last period because you had to make it to the other school in time.

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So I found out that I was born, was pretty good cardio and so essentially, if I didn't practice, if I didn't go to training at all, I was just good enough to be the eighth man on varsity and I got to skip Spanish class.

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So it wasn't an award, it was just like figuring out how to like avoid Spanish with the gifts that I was given.

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So probably, had I applied myself, I'd probably have a running award, but my award was the skipping eighth grade Spanish with the least amount of work award which I gave to myself.

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Okay, and now you're good.

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Now you're getting in deep, because you know that I'm an endurance coach and I actually coach cross country for Tampa Catholic High School here in Tampa, florida.

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So, yeah, you're starting to hit.

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I'm sorry I did desecrate your wonderful art it wasn't for me.

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I was not motivated by my love of running.

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I hated every minute of it.

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It was purely spanish motivated, but I I saw why people love cross country.

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I appreciate the people that did dedicate themselves to it and I'm sorry that I just hijacked your sport for nefarious reasons no, it's, I mean it's.

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I definitely have people on my team that unfortunately, they're there for other reasons.

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They do the work just because I'm just a lovable guy and so they do it for me.

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But yeah, I completely understand.

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So, all right.

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So you win class president, you win the chair award.

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Now you're out of high school, you go into, you go to UC Berkeley, which obviously did you live at home while you were at Berkeley.

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No, thank goodness, my parents were kind enough to not make that.

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And no, it was fun.

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I lived in this co-op with a bunch of kids and, yeah, it was neat, I loved it.

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It was so much fun.

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It was so much fun.

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But I was in engineering school.

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Somehow I got in.

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You needed really good math grades and I didn't have the math score.

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Somehow I got.

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Uc Berkeley.

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Science is very hard to get into because it's the toughest.

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It's the most competitive science school in the world because it's the only American science school that's more affordable.

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Caltech, harvard, mit, stanford they're up there in terms of their eliteness, but they're all private.

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Uc Berkeley is a public school, so it's more affordable.

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So you have the smartest kids from China and the smartest kids from India competing to get in there.

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So think about that the smartest of the smart of two billion populations.

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And those kids.

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They're not messing around.

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They're not there to party, meet girls, do anything.

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They are there to get grades, be successful and send money home.

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So I was outclassed.

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So somehow I got in and passed.

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But yeah, I don't know.

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It was intense, well so, how did you do that?

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Did you have to take an entrance exam or something?

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Well so, how did you do that?

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Did you have to take an entrance exam or something?

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You apply, I think the extracurriculars class president, things like that.

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I asked my dad if he helped get me in and he claims no, and I've looked it up.

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He can learned a skill that I had, that I didn't know I had, which was the UC Berkeley Engineering School.

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They're mostly teaching you theory.

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You're not really building a lot of stuff, and I liked making things.

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Growing up, my dad had a workshop and he let me make things and invent things.

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I wanted to be an inventor, but in engineering school you learn the theory of how to make things, but you didn't really make a lot of stuff.

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But we had this opportunity where we were supposed to design this robotic arm that was supposed to do something.

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So I designed it.

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But all these kids in engineering school were incredible at math.

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It was like their second language, and I wasn't really all that good at math because I didn't apply myself.

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You can tell from my lack of with cross-country.

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I was always just trying to find a sneaky way out, so I learned to solve things intuitively.

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When every other kid had an equation to solve, where's the bridge going to break?

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I would like become the bridge.

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I would like feel what it was like to be a bridge and I would say where would I break?

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And I would start solving things intuitively.

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I would build things with intuition, which was really just a coping mechanism because I didn't have the math to do it, but it turned into kind of a cool skill, because math is fine if it gets you the answer that the equation will get you, but what if you don't know what?

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If you have to innovate something?

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Then the math doesn't help you.

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So I remember one time I invented this arm, this robot arm, and I just did it on intuition.

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So this very successful, very famous mechanical engineer, my teacher, looked at it and he said this won't work.

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And I said what do you mean?

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It won't work.

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He says that won't work.

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It won't hold the object, it's going to break.

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He says why do you think it'll work?

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Now every other kid used math, so he was expecting a mathematical and I was like, and I just said I don't know, man, like I just feel like it's gonna work.

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He said it's not gonna work.

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And he pulls out his pen and he shows the math of why, with the coefficient of friction and the leverage, it wouldn't work.

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He said this won't work and I said I don't know, man, I think it'll work.

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And he said Look you go build this thing.

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If it works, I'll give you a job in my lab.

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And I said, deal.

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And I went and what was odd is I believed myself and I went and I built it and it worked.

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Yeah, now, looking back, an 18 year old kid with pimples, pretty insecure, telling a famous teacher hey, you're wrong and I'm right based on my gut feeling.

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And the reason it was so powerful is it taught me two things that led to developing this system for people, which is that A I just have this ability to sometimes see solutions that quote, unquote the experts miss, based on intuition and understanding things.

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But also it taught me experts can be wrong.

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It doesn't mean they don't know things, but like they can be wrong.

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And that's why I think what led to me doing what I did, I was somebody that, just like your audience well, I had I don't know your audience, but I know they struggle.

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I had, I had anxiety, I had fear of rejection, insecurity, perfectionism, people pleasing, overthinking all the greatest hits.

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And I went, like your audience, when they see that they're struggling and not being the person they want to be.

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I was like, okay, let's go be a better person.

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So I did what your audience said.

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I went looking for help and I went to the therapists and psychologists and read the books and watched the videos and did the retreats and followed the gurus and I did it all.

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I did EMDR and EFT and IFS and CGT and EFT and MOUSE.

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I did it all, brad.

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I did everything $100,000, 10 years and I more or less was still doing all the same stuff.

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I had some insights, I had some tips and tools to manage it, but it wasn't gone.

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It wasn't gone.

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And the engineer in me that is trained to get results and do things that work, I was like this industry I call it the improvement, industrial complex, personal development, therapy, psychology, spirituality.

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I was like they don't get great results 10 years, 100 grand and it's not gone.

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That's a horrible track record.

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If I took my car to a mechanic and $100,000 and 10 years later it's still at engine trouble, that's a bad mechanic.

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But I spent all this money and stuff.

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And when this industry it doesn't get great results but nobody has a problem with it and I just saw I was in all this pain and still doing my same stuff that was keeping me from being the person I wanted to be and living the life I wanted to live.

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And I guess, in that experience with my teacher and my own pain and wanting to be free of this stuff, I said maybe we, maybe I could reverse engineer something that we could be free of.

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Maybe the experts have missed something.

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So I started my own research company to see if we could reverse engineer an understanding of human struggle that would allow us to be free of it, meaning it's gone, not in years and lifetimes, but in weeks.

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And I didn't know if it was possible.

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I just tried and it took years.

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It took we worked with 3000 people, spent over a million dollars in research and development.

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I was one of the first test cases to get the results and I remember just waking up one morning after using all these tools that we'd been developing.

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And I just remember waking up one morning feeling oddly calm and I thought, well, this has got to be temporary, there's no way this is going to last.

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But one day goes by, one week goes by, just calm, nothing, no anxiety, no fear, nothing, just gone.

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It's been 10 years.

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I've been chill as a cucumber, nothing.

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I feel some stress for maybe two or three minutes and that's about it.

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But then also, I stopped caring what people think of me.

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The insecurity went away, procrastination went away, the doubt went away, the perfectionism it was just gone.

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And when my team saw this, they said, daniel, we did it Like we figured it out, and I said, no for me, yeah, great, I'm free of it.

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I mean, that's nice, I'm joyful, I'm content, I don't care what people think of me.

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But the goal wasn't about me.

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The goal was to see could we develop something for the world?

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So it took another five years to take the theory that worked for me and systematize it.

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That took more hard work was to create a system, a simple, step-by-step system.

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It's all online videos and exercises and diagrams, such that anybody, no matter what they struggle with anxiety, perfectionism, overthinking, self-doubt, whatever it is in six weeks, if you follow the steps, you get the result, which is that it's gone and not coming back.

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And we have a 90% success rate.

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And because our passion is results, as you go through the program, we're tracking your results numerically so we have real data on how you're improving and if your symptom isn't gone at the end of six weeks.

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We don't charge you when you work with us.

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You don't pay at the beginning because we haven't helped you yet.

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I'm an engineer, we haven't gotten you a result.

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We only charge you at the end of the six-week program when what you're struggling is gone.

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That's when you pay.

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And that's just because I'm an engineer and results matter and if we can't help you.

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But also it's just wrong.

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It's just wrong to take people's money.

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I believe if you can't solve their problem, don't take their money.

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That's me, other people will, but it doesn't feel right.

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I agree with that.

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And when I start a new client for endurance sports and, like I mentioned to you before, I coach endurance sports and I've had thousands of people come to me and I always tell them hey, our first session we're going to meet, you, have a consultation and then we'll have a first session.

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And after that first session, if you're not comfortable, if you don't feel like I can, I'm the right coach for you.

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If we don't fit, no charts right, we'll talk about what the price is afterwards, but we want to make sure that there's a fit there first, right and and then usually so I'm the same way, I feel the exact same way.

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I don't want anybody getting services from me unless they really feel like I can help them.

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So that also takes me into account and says all right, that first got to be my best, I've got to give them everything they can and I have to do it for them right, for them, for themselves.

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So I get it and I'm a hundred percent out for it.

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And I and I applaud you because I think that's amazing that you actually get people through the program before you even think about saying oh, okay, we helped you, great, okay, Now we're going to charge you and if you didn't, if you're not, and thank you, thank you and if you didn't.

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If you don't, then thank you, thank you, and I appreciate you doing it and it's well.

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It's still ethical and the right thing to do and I appreciate about you.

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It's done in places where results are pretty guaranteed.

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If you're working with someone in training and coaching, this is stuff that's measurable.

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You can it's not a mystery, so you can back up your results.

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If you're a personal trainer, you can get a person stronger.

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I mean, this stuff works.

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The mechanics of how to do what you do is tested and measurable and works.

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It's just nobody ever thought to do it with the inner world, to actually train like an athlete.

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And I've worked with several athletes and the reason they like what we do is because they know how to train their bodies.

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They just didn't know how to train their inner world, and so our entire structure is set up like a gym where there's reps and we call it instead of daily cardio, we call it daily cardio, and I worked with a former NFL athlete.

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He, of course, knows discipline and he was able to apply our tools such that the one thing he couldn't work in a real gym, which was the pressure when under pressure, he would crack.

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Also, I worked with a golfer helped her so that in tough moments.

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The pressure didn't get to her and she could perform at a high level.

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So we work with a lot of I wouldn't say a lot of athletes.

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We work with athletes for two reasons.

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One is we get incredible results in these two areas that they don't, they're not able to solve, which is under an extremely stressful moment.

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So when you're not performing well, can you stay centered.

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But also our program is very disciplined and so athletes love what we do because they just work the steps and they get the results.

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Awesome.

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Yeah, that's absolutely amazing.

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So what are some of the components of the reset?

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them to be free of what holds them back.

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Logically, they like the idea, but intuitively, if you're paying attention, you should be highly skeptical.

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Oh, absolutely yeah, and you should be skeptical.

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That's not cynical.

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Everything I mean everything on the market is and I'm not saying it doesn't help, I'm just saying it doesn't solve anything.

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Even meditation, mindfulness, mindset, it's managing the symptoms.

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It'll help you in the moment, but it'll come back.

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And I'm not saying there's no value to that, I'm just saying it's a limited model.

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Wouldn't it be nice if you could just be free of this?

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If you break a leg and you have two options you can do a meditation every day to lower your leg pain, or you can just put it on a cast and in eight weeks your leg is healed.

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What do you want to go through?

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You don't do the meditation.

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I'm not dismissing what's out there, I'm just saying it doesn't allow you to be free of it, let alone in six weeks.

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So when I tell people we can do this, they go.

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There's no way you can do that, and their experience says that.

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So I'll explain to you why it's more possible.

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Because otherwise your audience won't believe me, and if they don't believe me, they won't reach out for help.

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So here, well, first of all, let me tell you there's precedence for this.

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The reason we were able to find a solution is because we were looking for a solution.

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Therapists, psychologists, personal development coaches, gurus, for the most part.

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For the most part, they learn tips and tools and techniques that give you insights and awareness to manage things and then they sell it to you and they make some money and there's nothing wrong with that.

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But if you look at what they really do, it's the same old stuff that really gives you awareness and understanding and manages, but they don't solve it and that's okay.

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But they're not really passionate about solving it.

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They just regurgitate the same stuff.

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They're not trying to innovate.

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Innovation's hard.

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It took eight years.

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It's hard, but I'm an engineer and I'm an innovator and I just could not tolerate management.

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So part of the reason that we solved it is because we wanted to solve it, and that's not everybody.

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Not everyone's an innovator.

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And part of the reason I thought it was possible is because my mom told me growing up the story of Florence Nightingale.

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I don't know if you know the story, but basically Florence Nightingale is this British nurse in the 1850s and she saw that more soldiers were dying in recovery than in battle.

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So she goes to the experts, the doctors and the generals, and she says like, hey, we got a lot of men dying here.

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That's my incredibly accurate Florence Nightingale impression.

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And the generals and the doctors just basically said, like, don't worry about it, it's just part of war, like there's nothing you can do.

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That's the experts.

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But the experts.

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The problem with experts is they're in their old ways.

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They just regurgitate old beliefs.

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But she wasn't an expert, she's just a nurse who cared and was paying attention and she saw this correlation between infection rate and hygiene.

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And she was the one said, hey, why don't we open the windows, clean the bandages, don't put open wounds near the toilets?

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Surprise, surprise, the death rate dropped by 99 percent.

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She discovered it not because she was smarter.

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She discovered it because she was an outsider who wasn't an expert and wanted to solve it.

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And we were the same.

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We're not therapists, we're not psychologists, we're not.

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People say you're not a mental health expert.

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I'm like I know that's what the mental health expert.

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Look at their track record, anxiety is on the rise.

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So their data, their results, not great.

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You want someone who's not that.

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So we wanted to solve it and that's part of why we solved it.

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We also solved it because our approach we did what worked and we did what worked because we looked at what wasn't working and then we looked at what does work.

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And what does work is everywhere and what does this mean?

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So we look at therapy, psychology, spirituality and we looked at what are most people doing.

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Most people are using individual tools and techniques or awarenesses from individual coaches.

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Like one coach will teach mindset, one therapist will teach trauma, one person will teach you about mindfulness.

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You generally are like you're reading one book on the power of now, one book on this, one book on that.

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Now, that's okay if you want to learn about something, gain awareness and manage something One tool or technique at a time.

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But if you want to really bring something back to health, like truly overhaul something, you can't do it with one tool or technique.

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You need a complete toolkit that's engineered to work together to get the job done.

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Okay, like, if you don't take care of your teeth and you just want to manage the pain, you can floss a little bit, but if you need a root canal and you go to the dentist, do they have one tool, like do they hand you floss or do they have multiple tools, exactly?

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multiple.

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Yeah, and is it random tools, like, do they have a hammer and a chainsaw?

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Is it a bunch of random tools or is it a specific toolkit designed to work together to get the job done?

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Absolutely the latter yeah.

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Now it makes sense when you hear it right If you hire a contractor to come to your house and he just has a hammer, he's like you need a hammer I tractor to come to your house and he just has a hammer.

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He's like you need a hammer.

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I got a hammer and he just has like 30 hammers.

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Aren't you gonna wonder whether this guy can actually like rebuild your house?

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Yeah, exactly, I thought what was that?

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Well, with only one type of tool, right?

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Yeah, there's so many different things that need to be done.

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How do you, saw, how do you do electrical work with a hammer?

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How do you do plumbing with a hammer, right?

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Yeah, so you need multiple tools and multiple tools that work together, that are optimized to get the job done.

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That's just.

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You're a mechanic, a contractor, a dentist, a doctor.

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That's what does things quickly, so that's what gets the job done.

00:31:48.632 --> 00:31:59.678
But is it fair to say that when people your audience and you has gone looking for help, for whatever, you usually would go to one expert for like one or two tools or techniques at a time.

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Oh, you're 100% right, and I've actually.

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I've actually let people go off my roster because I have a certain methodology and I give them some my tools and sometimes it gets to a point where their progress is stagnated.

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So I literally say, all right, I'm no longer going to coach you, I have another coach that I would like you to go to for a while, and they go there and then they get another set of tools.

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So now they've got more than one set of tools, another two sets of methodologies that they can go back to in order to progress to the goal, right.

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And then, of course, I have right, miranda Carfrae is a three-time Ironman world champion, right, and she's amazing.

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But she was under the same coach for a long time, who is also a like world-class triathlon coach, and Siri sent her to Australia.

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Well, she was from Australia to Brett Sutton for two seasons and Brett took a totally different approach with her and gave her more tools.

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Then she decided to go back to Siri and now she has multiple tools right, so at her disposal and she won again.

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So, yeah, I 100% believe in having more tools in your toolbox.

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So at least when you were, or this story she was aware that she didn't have all the tools and you're an integrity.

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And the coach will say look, I know what I'm good at, I know what I'm not good at Right Now.

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Fortunately she went and got it.

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The thing is, yes, it's better to have more tools in your toolkit, but the problem is, for things like anxiety, overthinking, perfectionism, usually they're not.

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Usually the teacher, the coach, doesn't say by the way, this is just one tool, this will never get the job done.

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They're not honest about that.

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They're like I'm a mindset coach, I'm going to help you with mindset.

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Nothing wrong with mindset, but it's that they don't.

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They're not it.

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Nothing wrong with mindset, but it's that they don't, they're not.

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It's really not about what other people are doing.

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But even if you go around and get one tool and one tool and one tool, it's very inefficient.

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It takes years and years, and years.

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If you're lucky, I've met a person who solved his anxiety permanently and I asked him how long it took and he said 14 years because he was going from tool to tool to tool.

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So it's possible through trial and error and brute force, but in that eight years we built a complete toolkit and optimized it, so everything's in one place, and that's partly why it takes six weeks.

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So I'm telling you this why?

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So you understand why this is possible too.

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You were not given a complete toolkit for your insecurity, your anxiety, your overthinking, your perfectionism, and that's why you failed.

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And I'm telling your audience this because, if you don't know, you end up blaming yourself and you think you're broken and there's something wrong with you and your trap.

00:34:41.507 --> 00:34:43.534
That's how I felt, and I'm here to tell you.

00:34:43.534 --> 00:34:44.925
This is not your fault.

00:34:44.925 --> 00:34:52.295
It's that the experts that you trusted had an incomplete understanding of what they were doing and didn't tell you, and that's why you failed.

00:34:52.295 --> 00:35:05.331
When you have a complete toolkit to get the job done and those tools have been optimized to work together to get the job done, I hope you can understand the likelihood of you solving something skyrockets when you have all the tools in one place.

00:35:06.353 --> 00:35:12.373
Right, so can you give us a brief, give us a brief outline of what those tools are.

00:35:14.005 --> 00:35:15.592
Well, I think it's more important.

00:35:16.365 --> 00:35:22.838
The reason I say no is because even the reason the program is effective is not the tools.

00:35:22.838 --> 00:35:31.769
The reason the program is effective is because of a collection of tools, and if I pull one tool out, your audience will go oh, that's interesting, but that won't really help them.

00:35:31.769 --> 00:35:33.409
It's just not helpful.

00:35:33.409 --> 00:35:43.829
And what I'm trying to do is change people's paradigms about what's possible and for them to understand why they've failed, so that they don't blame themselves and feel trapped, to give them hope that you could be free of this.

00:35:43.829 --> 00:35:58.152
So what I will say is it's not just the tools that gets the results, because even if you have all the tools, that's still not enough to solve something quickly.

00:35:58.152 --> 00:36:10.027
So let's say, for instance, I don't know, you had a friend who tasted a chocolate chip cookie and your friend said wow, I want to make chocolate chip cookies, and they knew nothing about baking.

00:36:10.027 --> 00:36:20.338
Now, first of all, if you just hand them one aspect of baking, if you just hand them flour or just a bowl, are they going to succeed or fail at making a chocolate chip cookie?

00:36:20.518 --> 00:36:21.880
Oh, they're going to fail.

00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:27.206
Yeah, because you need to complete all the ingredients and all the tools, so they're going to fail.

00:36:27.206 --> 00:36:38.155
But if this person knew nothing about baking and you did you handed them all the ingredients and all the things they needed, but they didn't know anything about baking would they succeed or fail?

00:36:38.155 --> 00:36:40.697
They would fail.

00:36:40.697 --> 00:36:41.777
Yeah, why.

00:36:41.777 --> 00:36:42.398
What's missing?

00:36:42.398 --> 00:36:43.679
The technique?

00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:47.242
Yeah, the instructions Right.

00:36:47.242 --> 00:36:48.987
What do you do?

00:36:48.987 --> 00:36:50.793
In what order and when?

00:36:51.456 --> 00:36:51.675
Right.

00:36:52.364 --> 00:36:53.425
When you're working with people.

00:36:53.425 --> 00:36:53.947
Am I right?

00:36:53.947 --> 00:36:54.887
Isn't there an order?

00:36:54.887 --> 00:36:58.030
You start here, then you move them here, absolutely, 100% Right.

00:36:58.030 --> 00:37:02.434
And isn't there an amount like, okay, do reps of this, and there's it Right.

00:37:02.434 --> 00:37:06.036
So there's an order, there's a sequence and a timing.

00:37:06.036 --> 00:37:10.239
You see this everywhere, especially in physical training, especially in physical training.

00:37:10.260 --> 00:37:30.548
But again, when people go trying to work on anxiety, procrastination, perfectionism, mindset, overthinking, whatever it is, even if usually the coach or the therapist or the book basically says hey, here's a technique, good luck, and you're on your own and like you're going to fail, I remember reading the Power of Now and Eckhart Tolle is like be in the now, it's better.

00:37:30.548 --> 00:37:33.112
And I'm like, ooh, he's right, be in the now, it's better.

00:37:33.112 --> 00:37:34.094
And I tried it.

00:37:34.094 --> 00:37:37.500
No instructions, no explanation of what to do and when.

00:37:37.500 --> 00:37:39.088
I tried it and I failed.

00:37:39.088 --> 00:37:42.434
Not only did I fail, but I blamed myself.

00:37:42.434 --> 00:37:47.309
So, in the years that we developed the system, it's not just the tools.

00:37:47.309 --> 00:37:51.018
You need the instructions, you need an explanation.

00:37:51.018 --> 00:37:55.887
You need the instructions.

00:37:55.887 --> 00:37:56.550
You need an explanation.

00:37:56.550 --> 00:37:57.875
What do you do in what order, for how many reps, for how long?

00:37:57.875 --> 00:37:58.898
If you don't know that, you'll fail.

00:37:58.898 --> 00:38:01.146
If you don't know how to bake, you're like what do I do with the flour?

00:38:01.146 --> 00:38:01.927
Do I put it in the oven?

00:38:01.927 --> 00:38:02.931
What do I do with the egg?

00:38:02.931 --> 00:38:04.795
Do I just hold it?

00:38:04.795 --> 00:38:07.914
If I put it in the oven, what do I do how long in the oven?

00:38:07.914 --> 00:38:10.246
If you don't have the instructions, you will fail.

00:38:10.246 --> 00:38:17.865
People are given better instructions on how to make a Lego castle and an Ikea bookshelf than they are in how to actually be free of what's holding them back.

00:38:17.865 --> 00:38:27.021
So this is why your audience has failed they got an incomplete toolkit and they weren't given clear instructions on what to do, in what order and when.

00:38:27.021 --> 00:38:37.518
And also the reason they failed is because you know this If you give your client something that's beyond their capacity, it's too much for them.

00:38:37.518 --> 00:38:38.478
They're going to fail.

00:38:38.478 --> 00:38:47.150
Right, let's say you're a strength conditioning coach and the person is new and they try to lift 1,000 pounds.

00:38:47.150 --> 00:38:48.916
They're going to fail and can even hurt themselves.

00:38:48.916 --> 00:38:55.431
But again, when it comes to personal development, spirituality and therapy, they just say here you go.

00:38:55.891 --> 00:38:58.237
I remember following a guru for like six months.

00:38:58.237 --> 00:39:00.507
He said your ego is the problem.

00:39:00.507 --> 00:39:01.329
Get rid of the ego.

00:39:01.329 --> 00:39:04.938
That's like a thousand pound weight.

00:39:04.938 --> 00:39:06.106
You can't get rid of the ego.

00:39:06.106 --> 00:39:06.588
Like what?

00:39:06.588 --> 00:39:08.715
Or when I had a coach one time, a mindset coach.

00:39:08.715 --> 00:39:11.128
He said you need to shift your mindset to believe in yourself.

00:39:11.128 --> 00:39:15.356
And I was like, oh okay, but like that's, you can't just do that.

00:39:15.356 --> 00:39:16.838
You got to work up to that.

00:39:16.838 --> 00:39:20.757
So that's why people try this stuff and fail and then beat themselves up.

00:39:21.018 --> 00:39:32.215
No, we have a complete toolkit with instructions where you start off really simple and gentle, you build up some strength and skill and mastery and then you move on to the next sequence.

00:39:32.215 --> 00:39:34.608
And we do this because we don't want you to fail.

00:39:34.608 --> 00:39:41.815
And I'm telling your audience this because part of the reason more people don't work with us is because they don't know what we have is better.

00:39:41.815 --> 00:39:51.554
They know what they've tried and they've tried things and they fail not only if they fail, but they fail and they feel even more trapped and even more broken and even more like something wrong with me.

00:39:51.554 --> 00:39:57.150
So the people that work with us are two groups.

00:39:57.150 --> 00:40:03.197
One of the groups is the people that just think it's all their fault and they think they're going to try one more thing and fail.

00:40:03.197 --> 00:40:09.097
And I'm telling your audience if you have a fear of that, I totally get it and really almost anything else out there.

00:40:09.097 --> 00:40:13.096
Yes, if you try it, you will fail to be free of it and it's no fun.

00:40:14.344 --> 00:40:18.717
When we built our, I know the pain of trying things and failing and feeling more broken.

00:40:18.764 --> 00:40:27.938
And when we built this program, the reason we have a 90% success rate is because, I said when we build this, this has to be so dead simple that if somebody shows up every day, it's going to work.

00:40:28.297 --> 00:40:31.320
We want you to succeed so that you're free of this and live the life you want to live.

00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.362
But also we do not want you to fail, because we do not want you to feel that pain and feel worse about yourself.

00:40:37.362 --> 00:40:38.922
We're here to help you feel better, not worse.

00:40:38.922 --> 00:40:46.398
But also the reason we get paid at the end is so that you know your success and our success are linked.

00:40:46.398 --> 00:40:47.666
We're in this together.

00:40:47.666 --> 00:40:51.793
We're not going to take your money and leave you on your own, which is what a lot of the coaches did to me.

00:40:51.793 --> 00:40:57.510
It took a lot of my money and gave me some tips and tools and left me to hang, and we're not going to do that to you.

00:40:57.510 --> 00:41:05.173
So if you're worried about trying something and failing, I get it, but we really built this to honor people.

00:41:05.173 --> 00:41:06.356
People are in pain.

00:41:06.356 --> 00:41:09.635
They need something that just effing works.

00:41:09.635 --> 00:41:17.353
Partly so it works, but also we don't want you to fail that's a really powerful statement.

00:41:17.413 --> 00:41:19.496
If you literally hear what did daniel say?

00:41:19.496 --> 00:41:27.085
He says he says does you do not want you to fail and this is a six-week program that will take away your anxiety and your fears.

00:41:27.085 --> 00:41:31.467
So, with that being said, is even with.

00:41:31.467 --> 00:41:40.974
So I work with a lot of some cancer institutions and even having cancer and they go into remission, there's maintenance that needs to be done in order to keep it there.

00:41:40.974 --> 00:41:54.722
Is there any type of maintenance after the six weeks to make sure that we remain in that, in that state of no anxiety and fear, or is you saying that after six weeks it's just gone?

00:41:55.184 --> 00:41:58.393
That's an excellent question and it relates to what you do.

00:41:58.393 --> 00:42:01.889
So the short answer is part of the other reason.

00:42:01.889 --> 00:42:14.637
The breakthrough that made all this possible is we saw that, first of all, the root cause of what everybody is struggling with is just one root cause it's fear.

00:42:14.637 --> 00:42:19.568
You can call it anxiety, but you're really just terrified, it's fear.

00:42:19.568 --> 00:42:23.123
And then you feel you call that extra scary feeling anxiety.

00:42:23.123 --> 00:42:25.728
But mechanically it's fear.

00:42:25.728 --> 00:42:27.753
But also procrastination.

00:42:27.753 --> 00:42:36.128
You can call it procrastination, but if you actually look at it mechanically, really there's something you're afraid to finish and then you're afraid someone's going to judge.

00:42:36.128 --> 00:42:36.730
You're not like.

00:42:36.730 --> 00:42:37.960
It brings up the fear of rejection.

00:42:37.960 --> 00:42:38.922
So it's fear.

00:42:38.922 --> 00:42:43.188
But procrastination is a strategy to avoid that fear.

00:42:43.369 --> 00:42:48.476
Make sense, absolutely Perfectionist oh, I'm a perfectionist, you're not a perfectionist.

00:42:48.476 --> 00:42:50.447
You're afraid to make a mistake and be judged.

00:42:50.447 --> 00:42:51.704
So you want it to be perfect.

00:42:51.704 --> 00:42:53.009
You're not a perfectionist.

00:42:53.009 --> 00:42:54.626
It's a coping mechanism to avoid fear.

00:42:54.626 --> 00:42:57.925
So, mechanically, all these struggles, you don't have different problems.

00:42:57.925 --> 00:43:00.891
You are afraid and you have different experiences.

00:43:00.891 --> 00:43:03.295
So our program is healing the fear.

00:43:03.295 --> 00:43:07.963
And when you heal the fear, the symptom whether it's anxiety, perfectionism, overthinking is gone.

00:43:08.364 --> 00:43:15.144
Make sense, yes, and that fear, we found out the location.

00:43:15.144 --> 00:43:19.800
The actual mechanical location is not where we're taught these problems are coming from.

00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.702
We're trained that most of our problems are coming from the mind.

00:43:22.702 --> 00:43:24.487
Change your mindset.

00:43:24.487 --> 00:43:26.172
Anxiety is a problem of the mind.

00:43:26.172 --> 00:43:27.242
It's called mental health.

00:43:27.242 --> 00:43:28.925
It's got the word mental right in there.

00:43:28.925 --> 00:43:31.052
The ego, which is the mind.

00:43:31.052 --> 00:43:33.882
Perfectionism, overly critical.

00:43:33.882 --> 00:43:34.744
It's all we're taught.

00:43:34.744 --> 00:43:39.653
Now, if I got results, fine, but it doesn't.

00:43:39.653 --> 00:43:40.302
How do we know?

00:43:40.302 --> 00:43:41.807
People are stuck with this their whole life.

00:43:41.807 --> 00:43:51.693
The mind is part of it, but the mind is a symptom of what's actually causing the fear, which is your body.

00:43:51.693 --> 00:43:55.184
The fear is coming from your body.

00:43:58.110 --> 00:44:00.960
Wow, okay, that's.

00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:06.039
Ooh, that's interesting, interesting, okay, can you give me an example?

00:44:07.844 --> 00:44:10.411
I can not only give you an example, this just makes common sense.

00:44:10.411 --> 00:44:19.385
Have you ever noticed that when you feel calmer, your mind tends to notice more good things and have positive thoughts?

00:44:19.385 --> 00:44:23.530
Yes, absolutely yeah.

00:44:23.530 --> 00:44:27.936
And when you feel more anxious or scared?

00:44:32.349 --> 00:44:34.076
your mind tends to go to negative town faster.

00:44:34.076 --> 00:44:39.382
Yeah, I think we have to.

00:44:39.382 --> 00:44:46.394
The vocabulary is like stress and like fear, like I can be totally like physically stressed via physical activity and my mind doesn't go there.

00:44:46.394 --> 00:44:55.574
But if I'm stressed via an outside stimulus then, yeah, I definitely my mind will go when I go to a dark place and I start having negative self-talk.

00:44:55.980 --> 00:44:57.563
So yeah, yeah.

00:44:57.563 --> 00:45:01.369
And where do we feel that fear?

00:45:01.369 --> 00:45:06.583
Whatever you call it, you feel it in your throat, your chest, your heart, your stomach.

00:45:06.583 --> 00:45:07.525
Yeah, okay.

00:45:07.525 --> 00:45:10.913
So the experts are telling you it's mental health.

00:45:10.913 --> 00:45:13.626
Change your mindset, it's your ego and the mind.

00:45:13.626 --> 00:45:19.824
Quiet the mind, but listen to those words chest, throat, heart, stomach.

00:45:19.824 --> 00:45:21.688
Does that sound like the mind to you, or more like the body?

00:45:21.688 --> 00:45:24.134
It's the body.

00:45:24.134 --> 00:45:33.168
We are wired such that the body sends signals of what the body needs to stay alive, and then the mind is a tool to get the body what it needs.

00:45:33.168 --> 00:45:39.251
You feel hunger in your body first, and then your mind goes oh, I sense the hunger.

00:45:39.251 --> 00:45:40.543
We should figure out where to go eat.

00:45:42.429 --> 00:45:42.851
That's true.

00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:54.581
Yeah, we're wired such that if you're in the jungle and you hear a noise, and you will feel fear in the body first, and then your mind is a tool to say we better get the hell out of here.

00:45:54.581 --> 00:46:00.643
It's a tool, the mind is a tool to get the body what it needs, is a tool to get the body what it needs.

00:46:00.643 --> 00:46:06.686
So now, for reasons which our program addresses, your body keyword.

00:46:06.686 --> 00:46:08.608
Your body is feeling fear.

00:46:08.608 --> 00:46:18.373
Then your mind senses that fear, thinks there's a problem and then starts creating problems, trying to solve the imaginary problem.

00:46:18.373 --> 00:46:23.876
Now, if you don't know this, you think it's the mind, partly because the mind says critical things and scary things.

00:46:23.876 --> 00:46:24.715
And then you feel fear.

00:46:24.715 --> 00:46:28.177
So you think, oh, it's the mind, and you've got all these experts telling you it's the mind.

00:46:28.177 --> 00:46:37.422
But if you look closely, it's not.

00:46:37.422 --> 00:46:38.202
The mind is not the root cause.

00:46:38.202 --> 00:46:39.746
The mind is a symptom of what's really causing this, which is the body.

00:46:39.746 --> 00:46:40.869
It starts in the body and it spreads to the mind.

00:46:40.869 --> 00:46:41.690
How do we know this?

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Because this is not theory.

00:46:43.201 --> 00:46:49.150
When we started developing tools that just focused on the body, not only did the fear in the body go down and stay down.

00:46:49.150 --> 00:46:49.882
That let us know.

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We're in the root cause.

00:46:50.766 --> 00:46:53.248
But then the mind went quiet with it.

00:46:53.248 --> 00:47:00.027
I used that not only at anxiety, but my mind was not only critical, it was like screaming at me, it was like the judges from the Muppets.

00:47:00.648 --> 00:47:04.554
And when my body calmed down, my mind has been quiet for 10 years.

00:47:04.554 --> 00:47:10.681
It just doesn't talk anymore.

00:47:10.681 --> 00:47:11.123
It's gone.

00:47:11.123 --> 00:47:13.108
I don't need to meditate, I don't need to change my mindset, it's just quiet.

00:47:13.108 --> 00:47:14.652
And when it does talk it says nice things.

00:47:14.652 --> 00:47:22.992
So the reason your audience has failed is because they were sent to the literal wrong location the mind.

00:47:22.992 --> 00:47:27.231
The mind is a symptom, it's part of it, it's just not the root cause.

00:47:27.231 --> 00:47:32.132
So if you spend decades focusing on a symptom, that's why it hasn't gone away.

00:47:32.132 --> 00:47:34.889
Not because you're broken, not because there's anything wrong with you.

00:47:34.889 --> 00:47:38.952
It's because the experts literally sent you to the wrong location.

00:47:38.952 --> 00:47:45.351
I hope you can understand that if you go to the right location, you have a heck of a better chance of solving something.

00:47:46.416 --> 00:47:53.445
Well, and that's super interesting that you say that, because, like my audience, well, so my audience is not just endurance athletes, it's everybody.

00:47:53.445 --> 00:48:10.851
But as far as my clients go and the people that listen that are in endurance athletes or just athletes, there is that section of hey, you know what, when we do feel stress or something, and then we go out and we do something, like me, go out for a run and all of a sudden you get what we call the runner's high, which is the endorphins coming in.

00:48:10.851 --> 00:48:11.922
Well, we were thought.

00:48:11.922 --> 00:48:30.728
What I thought is like you're going, so yeah, and no matter what's going on in your what's going on, you can manage it, not like, not like what your program does, but we manage it because we go out for a run and we're doing something with our body, creating some endorphins for our mind.

00:48:30.728 --> 00:48:32.333
So now it totally makes sense.

00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:33.521
Absolutely.

00:48:33.521 --> 00:48:35.409
People look the stuff I'm pointing to.

00:48:35.409 --> 00:48:36.713
It works so well.

00:48:36.713 --> 00:48:39.623
Not because this is fancy, it's dead simple.

00:48:39.623 --> 00:48:43.271
It's just the experts were really confused and have given people poor information.

00:48:43.271 --> 00:48:46.429
But once you start hearing what I'm saying, it makes sense.

00:48:46.429 --> 00:48:49.967
People who have anxiety, stress, overwhelm.

00:48:49.967 --> 00:48:51.010
What do they do?

00:48:51.010 --> 00:48:55.489
They've learned intuitively go do something in the body to calm the body down.

00:48:55.489 --> 00:48:57.333
It could be exercise, it could be breath work.

00:48:57.333 --> 00:49:00.248
The body calms down and the mind follows.

00:49:00.248 --> 00:49:06.105
We have the data and that works for symptom management.

00:49:06.105 --> 00:49:08.893
We just figured out how to calm the body permanently.

00:49:08.893 --> 00:49:12.407
So now you don't have to run or do breath work to calm the body.

00:49:12.407 --> 00:49:14.032
Your body is permanently calm.

00:49:14.032 --> 00:49:20.181
My body is permanently calm, it's just calm and because of that it's permanent and my mind is permanently quiet.

00:49:20.181 --> 00:49:23.527
But people already know it starts in the body.

00:49:23.527 --> 00:49:25.130
They already have the data.

00:49:25.130 --> 00:49:27.114
They use that to manage it.

00:49:27.114 --> 00:49:28.882
But we figured out how to solve it.

00:49:30.226 --> 00:49:37.831
That's, yeah, I mean like a lot of that makes sense to me, but how you say that it starts in the body, that is not and that's not clicking with me.

00:49:37.831 --> 00:49:50.389
Just for this right, somebody, somebody's got a relationship and they go to their significant other and all of a sudden, this thing that they thought was beautiful and great, and all of a sudden they get broken up with right there.

00:49:50.389 --> 00:49:58.547
Now I've had my fair share of breakups and, man, the minute you hear those words, it hurts, and then it gets worse and worse.

00:49:58.547 --> 00:50:01.164
So that wouldn't that be more of okay?

00:50:01.164 --> 00:50:04.572
I've received a signal saying that I'm losing a part of myself.

00:50:04.572 --> 00:50:06.483
Then it goes to the body.

00:50:06.483 --> 00:50:09.708
So isn't so?

00:50:09.708 --> 00:50:13.213
That tells me more brain than reaction with the body.

00:50:13.213 --> 00:50:14.340
Well, here's the thing.

00:50:15.442 --> 00:50:16.923
Both happen in a blink of an eye.

00:50:16.923 --> 00:50:26.835
Once your body starts to feel something, within about a tenth of a second, your mind responds Okay, so from your experience, they're going to happen at the same time.

00:50:28.001 --> 00:50:28.282
Okay.

00:50:28.563 --> 00:50:28.782
Okay.

00:50:28.782 --> 00:50:45.867
Now if a bunch of experts tell you well, this is just your mind creating a narrative that you're, and it's your mind telling you things, and then it spreads to your body, it sounds like a decent theory, right, right, okay, results matter.

00:50:45.867 --> 00:50:52.869
To those people that you went to, who gave you this advice, did they help you be completely free of this?

00:50:53.952 --> 00:50:54.695
no, and I get it.

00:50:54.695 --> 00:50:55.097
I get it.

00:50:55.097 --> 00:50:55.719
It's a managing.

00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:58.885
I was looking for more like the science part of it.

00:50:59.286 --> 00:51:09.711
No, but what I'm explaining is the reason you believe this is because somebody told you that, and if you don't know what's going on, it seems like it starts in the mind and spreads to the body.

00:51:09.711 --> 00:51:13.329
A because it happens so fast you can't tell the difference.

00:51:13.329 --> 00:51:14.853
It's simultaneous.

00:51:14.853 --> 00:51:18.070
And the experts tell you it starts in the mind.

00:51:18.070 --> 00:51:23.565
So you think it starts in the mind, and I'm just saying that could be true if it were true.

00:51:23.565 --> 00:51:27.300
But it's not true because if it was true, these people would get better results.

00:51:27.300 --> 00:51:35.166
So you think it starts in your mind because it happens almost at the same time and people told you this is mind stuff.

00:51:35.166 --> 00:51:37.130
And you believe them because it makes sense, right?

00:51:37.130 --> 00:51:40.728
Oh, my mind tells me negative thoughts, thoughts, and now I feel worse.

00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:49.541
One problem that's not true.

00:51:49.541 --> 00:51:50.063
We are mechanically wired.

00:51:50.063 --> 00:51:51.425
The body feels things first and it spreads to the mind second.

00:51:51.425 --> 00:51:53.230
But again, you can't know whether I'm telling the truth.

00:51:53.230 --> 00:51:58.300
Based on this, here's how you know, Based on what I'm telling you that it all starts in the body and spreads to the mind.

00:51:58.300 --> 00:52:00.545
I've been chill as a cucumber for 10 years.

00:52:01.306 --> 00:52:01.586
Yeah.

00:52:02.068 --> 00:52:02.288
Okay.

00:52:02.288 --> 00:52:05.032
Based on that, we have a 90% success rate in six weeks.

00:52:05.032 --> 00:52:12.733
Based on that, we're the only company in the world the only one that charges you at the end once you're free of it.

00:52:12.733 --> 00:52:19.516
So, from sitting here, you can't trust me that it starts in the body, but based in that knowledge.

00:52:19.516 --> 00:52:24.601
Trust me that it starts in the body, but based on that knowledge, we're getting way better results.

00:52:24.621 --> 00:52:32.731
Yeah, and if you go to DanielPackercom, you'll actually see a lot of these like amazing testimonials that people are talking about.

00:52:32.731 --> 00:52:34.574
So it's there.

00:52:34.574 --> 00:52:36.356
He's got the, he's got the data.

00:52:36.356 --> 00:52:42.518
And again, if you, like I said, go visit DanielPardcom, you actually can.

00:52:42.518 --> 00:52:42.739
He's got a.

00:52:42.739 --> 00:52:44.864
You can listen to Daniel and his.

00:52:44.864 --> 00:52:52.168
He's got a short introductory video on there and you can book a free call with him and figure out what you're, what you can do.

00:52:52.168 --> 00:53:08.413
Next, if you're starting to feel, or you have felt, this anxiety and this fear, this is a way for you to rid yourself of that and just have the greatest life that you could possibly imagine, whether you end up into obstacles or not.

00:53:10.380 --> 00:53:13.530
Yeah, what the benefit of this approach?

00:53:13.530 --> 00:53:18.608
It's hard for people to understand what real freedom is like because we spend our whole lives managing it.

00:53:18.608 --> 00:53:23.608
When you spend your whole life managing it, that's your life, so your energy goes to the management.

00:53:23.608 --> 00:53:31.193
But our program, by going to the right location, the body, which is where fear comes from.

00:53:31.193 --> 00:53:39.849
Because basically, if you don't treat your body right physically, like if your diet is off, you will see symptoms.

00:53:39.849 --> 00:53:43.094
Like if you eat poorly, your body will show symptoms.

00:53:43.094 --> 00:53:48.472
Essentially, we saw that 10 to 30 times a day.

00:53:48.681 --> 00:53:53.032
People are basically accidentally, unknowingly, neglecting their inner emotional world.

00:53:53.032 --> 00:54:01.273
They don't know they're doing it and so an accumulation of that neglect leaves people feeling unsafe within their own body.

00:54:01.273 --> 00:54:12.166
If a person treats you poorly, if we are friends and I treat you like crap long enough, will you feel safe or unsafe around me?

00:54:12.166 --> 00:54:13.951
Unsafe, right.

00:54:13.951 --> 00:54:18.090
So there's a direct mechanical link between how you're treated and how safe you feel.

00:54:18.090 --> 00:54:20.440
It's mechanics, how you're treated and how safe you feel.

00:54:20.440 --> 00:54:20.840
It's mechanics.

00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:26.907
So in a friend relationship, if I treat you poorly long enough, you'll feel unsafe.

00:54:26.907 --> 00:54:28.268
You feel unsafe, you'll feel fear.

00:54:28.268 --> 00:54:32.010
If you feel fear, you'll have anxiety, procrastination, it'll all come.

00:54:32.010 --> 00:54:38.376
But we're in a relationship with ourselves, and is it fair to say that you're sometimes not always a very loving, caring friend to yourself.

00:54:39.740 --> 00:54:40.884
Oh yeah, 100%.

00:54:41.365 --> 00:54:43.030
Yeah, people know that.

00:54:43.030 --> 00:54:45.920
People are like, oh, I'm so hard on myself, oh, I beat myself up all the time.

00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:48.228
People know they treat themselves poorly.

00:54:48.228 --> 00:54:50.186
People know they have fear.

00:54:50.186 --> 00:54:59.728
What we saw in the research that's so simple, everybody missed is there's a direct mechanical link between that poor treatment and the feeling of fear and unsafety.

00:54:59.728 --> 00:55:04.806
That's what we discovered, just like Florence Nightingale discovered a simple thing.

00:55:04.806 --> 00:55:07.233
We discovered a simple thing.

00:55:07.579 --> 00:55:19.742
So the downside is 10 to 30 times a day, totally unknowing to you, you're doing things that are accumulating to, leaving you feeling unsafe within your own body and you don't know you're doing it, so you can't stop it.

00:55:19.742 --> 00:55:23.713
So the symptoms are always going to come because you keep redoing it to yourself.

00:55:23.713 --> 00:55:27.070
You can't lose weight if you keep eating cheeseburgers every day.

00:55:27.070 --> 00:55:53.391
But can you see that if the fear and unsafety in your body is a direct mechanical cause of an accumulation of you not being good to you in little ways 10 to 30 times a day and that's been building up like calories and that's leaving you feeling unsafe in your own body, if the root cause is little behaviors accumulating over time and that's causing the problem, can you see why?

00:55:53.391 --> 00:55:56.246
That's actually good news if you want to solve this quickly.

00:55:57.469 --> 00:55:59.472
Yeah, absolutely, it's just yeah.

00:56:21.900 --> 00:56:22.541
Yeah, absolutely, it's just.

00:56:22.541 --> 00:56:23.101
Yeah, you gain enough weight.

00:56:23.101 --> 00:56:25.545
It's a problem Now, when people have extra weight, they don't go.

00:56:25.545 --> 00:56:30.652
Oh my God, I'm suffering from like big belly disorder, or oh my God, this is an effect of my childhood.

00:56:30.652 --> 00:56:31.853
Oh my God, no, they go.

00:56:31.853 --> 00:56:32.755
Oh no, wait a minute.

00:56:36.699 --> 00:56:42.623
I made little daily choices that accumulated and the reason that's good news is to turn it around.

00:56:42.623 --> 00:56:46.291
Instead of doing little unhealthy acts, you just do little healthy acts and the weight goes away.

00:56:46.291 --> 00:56:59.914
Our program is dead simple Instead of doing 30 things that are unhealthy to your soul, you switch from unhealth to health and mechanically, at the end you go from unsafe to feeling safe within yourself.

00:56:59.914 --> 00:57:02.423
It's dead simple Little behaviors done, every.

00:57:02.423 --> 00:57:03.425
That's what the program does.

00:57:03.425 --> 00:57:05.949
Four times a day for five minutes.

00:57:05.949 --> 00:57:10.746
You make little micro adjustments to how you treat yourself, and this is all laid out in the program.

00:57:10.746 --> 00:57:14.786
And if you work just like, you can lose weight with a set of steps.

00:57:14.786 --> 00:57:18.012
You can lose the fear with a set of steps.

00:57:18.012 --> 00:57:18.853
It's doable.

00:57:18.853 --> 00:57:20.585
This isn't that weird.

00:57:20.585 --> 00:57:21.648
This isn't too good to be true.

00:57:21.648 --> 00:57:23.527
If you can lose weight, you can lose fear.

00:57:23.527 --> 00:57:24.684
That should be my bumper sticker.

00:57:25.420 --> 00:57:26.644
Yeah, I love that.

00:57:26.644 --> 00:57:27.208
That's great.

00:57:27.208 --> 00:57:28.766
If you can lose weight, you can lose fear.

00:57:28.766 --> 00:57:29.568
That's amazing.

00:57:29.568 --> 00:57:37.387
Yeah, because obviously you've heard it all before, with the therapist saying oh no, you're fat because of the way you grew up, because your parents were fat, blah.

00:57:37.387 --> 00:57:49.030
When you're, what's staying is no, let's make those mechanical adjustments and make yourself feel more powerful and less fear, so then you can tackle the weight problem.

00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:55.931
Right, but the key is that the adjustments that need to be made are just small adjustments that accumulate.

00:57:55.931 --> 00:58:02.811
The reason people fail in trying to be happy is because they're like, oh, I have a critical mind and they just try to shut it off.

00:58:02.811 --> 00:58:04.847
That's almost impossible.

00:58:04.847 --> 00:58:06.507
A you're in the wrong place and it's a symptom.

00:58:06.507 --> 00:58:08.407
Or I need to believe in myself.

00:58:08.407 --> 00:58:09.704
That's totally abstract.

00:58:09.704 --> 00:58:11.088
Like what, what does that even look like?

00:58:11.088 --> 00:58:12.927
Or you need to not doubt yourself.

00:58:12.927 --> 00:58:14.365
It's this big abstract thing.

00:58:15.179 --> 00:58:16.686
But losing weight isn't abstract.

00:58:16.686 --> 00:58:22.945
You just make a couple adjustments to your diet and you burn more calories.

00:58:22.945 --> 00:58:28.664
It's all doable steps, and the reason this program works is it's based on doable steps that accumulate to get you the result.

00:58:28.664 --> 00:58:32.762
And the result is that you're free, and when you're free of it, oh my, it's so different.

00:58:32.762 --> 00:58:41.144
Just imagine your life If you woke up every morning this is for your audience, whether you have anxiety, procrastination, caring what people think of you.

00:58:41.144 --> 00:58:52.592
Just imagine following a set of steps and at the end of six weeks, the result is you wake up every morning and you feel safe and solid from within.

00:58:52.592 --> 00:58:58.632
If you felt that's your default you just felt safe and solid from within how would your life be better?

00:59:00.099 --> 00:59:00.983
You know what, and that's how.

00:59:00.983 --> 00:59:08.742
I'm going to put that in that exact question, in the show notes, along with ways to get a hold of you and your website.

00:59:08.742 --> 00:59:20.648
And, because this is amazing people, you really got to take advantage of this, because this is groundbreaking, right, and I think, yeah, this can help a lot of people tell people.

00:59:20.648 --> 00:59:25.394
So one more question let's make this round this out with a little bit more fun.

00:59:25.394 --> 00:59:32.619
So I understand that you are also a stand up.

00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:34.681
comedian I was for 20 years?

00:59:34.702 --> 00:59:35.744
Yeah, for 20 years.

00:59:35.744 --> 00:59:38.291
So did this come before or after or during?

00:59:38.550 --> 00:59:44.143
while you're doing, stand up this come before or after or during, while you're doing standup.

00:59:44.143 --> 00:59:50.786
This all came after, but the approach that I, the muscle or the attitude that let figuring out how to figure this out, how to basically get rid of fear in six weeks was.

00:59:50.786 --> 00:59:58.760
It was hard and you had to have a lot of vision and tenacity and I built that muscle partly in engineering school, but also as a comedian.

00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:15.601
When I was a comedian I was, I got I good pretty quickly and I got bored and I thought I want to try something new and I came up with this new way of doing comedy that had never been done before and everybody told me it wasn't possible.

01:00:15.601 --> 01:00:33.414
But I had a vision that it would be possible and if I could pull it off it would completely innovate comedy and it and also it would be so good that I wouldn't have to do what all other comedians do, which is beg for stage time, maybe beg for a TV role, like I didn't want to beg.

01:00:33.414 --> 01:00:44.295
I read the Van Gogh biography and basically he just went and just like, painted and painted and painted and painted, because he wasn't trying to do anything, he didn't want to become a painter, he just liked painting.

01:00:44.295 --> 01:00:48.728
But he became so good at what he did that when he dies, everybody like came to him.

01:00:48.728 --> 01:00:49.751
Now he was dead.

01:00:49.751 --> 01:01:06.983
Not a great business model, but I like the idea that you could innovate something and it'd be so good that people would come to you and as a comedian you're always a beggar and I said I'm going to innovate this art form and then it's going to be so valuable and so incredible that the gatekeepers will come to me.

01:01:06.983 --> 01:01:18.677
So I spent 10 years to innovate this style of comedy, so much hard work and at the end I had a one man show that I built 10 years to develop Incredible.

01:01:18.677 --> 01:01:26.853
I moved to New York and within two weeks I had the producers of Book of Mormon and Wicked who wanted to put my one-man show on Broadway.

01:01:29.023 --> 01:01:31.590
Oh man, Did that ever come to fruition?

01:01:34.380 --> 01:01:36.206
Well, I mean, we worked on it.

01:01:36.206 --> 01:01:37.630
It was just about to happen.

01:01:37.630 --> 01:01:51.025
We worked on it for two years and I think God or spirit or universe knew it's not what I was meant to do and I would have been trapped, and I wanted to be a teacher.

01:01:51.025 --> 01:01:51.969
I wanted to figure this out.

01:01:51.969 --> 01:01:55.130
So, basically, a whole set of circumstances happened.

01:01:55.130 --> 01:01:58.666
The whole project crumbled in like two weeks and I was actually relieved.

01:01:59.300 --> 01:02:07.871
But the gift of it is this ability to have a 10-year vision of something and work at it and and, just in your heart, know it's possible.

01:02:07.871 --> 01:02:14.860
So when I went to go develop this program, I didn't know if it was going to work, brad, but I had this experience with comedy.

01:02:14.860 --> 01:02:23.262
That and this tenacity and persistence, just go at something hard, all in commitment, and that's what it took to pull this off.

01:02:23.262 --> 01:02:31.333
So, and I'd much rather be helping people be free of fear and anxiety to live the life they want to live instead of telling jokes on Broadway.

01:02:31.333 --> 01:02:35.266
This is much more fulfilling and a much better sort of way.

01:02:35.266 --> 01:02:39.152
That said, the trainings in the program are very funny.

01:02:39.152 --> 01:02:39.920
I got to be honest.

01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:42.427
I made sure to put a lot of humor in there because I know this stuff is painful.

01:02:42.427 --> 01:02:51.425
So when you work with me, when you go through the program, it's all videos, but they're not only insightful, but I got to say they're pretty effing funny, because I was an auto comedian for 20 years.

01:02:52.927 --> 01:02:53.851
That's fantastic.

01:02:53.851 --> 01:02:56.601
Well, listen, let's wrap this up, daniel.

01:02:56.601 --> 01:02:57.422
Thank you so much.

01:02:57.422 --> 01:03:02.626
I'm going to make sure that all of we've got your website, danielpackercom.

01:03:02.626 --> 01:03:09.952
Make sure you go visit that, even just to listen to some of the testimonials and Daniel's thing, daniel's intro video.

01:03:09.952 --> 01:03:13.494
And then so I have all of your socials.

01:03:13.494 --> 01:03:14.235
Are you?

01:03:14.235 --> 01:03:16.516
Which one are you more active on?

01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:22.559
on.

01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:23.163
I mean, with all due humility.

01:03:23.163 --> 01:03:25.030
I don't want people following me on social media because that doesn't lead to results.

01:03:25.030 --> 01:03:27.782
We're looking for motivated people and I don't want people following my content.

01:03:27.782 --> 01:03:34.684
If you are paying attention and you heard what I said, you can be free of this and you only pay at the end, when it works.

01:03:34.684 --> 01:03:37.492
You should not be going and following me on social media.

01:03:37.492 --> 01:03:42.755
You should be going to my website and you should be figuring out what we do and you should book a call with me.

01:03:42.755 --> 01:03:43.637
That's what you should do.

01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:51.967
We're looking for motivated people who actually truly want to be free of this and love the fact that there's no risk and love the fact that it's a system so they can't fail.

01:03:51.967 --> 01:04:00.811
So I my passion is freedom and those people please don't go to social media, because then you're just learning more and understanding more.

01:04:00.811 --> 01:04:07.061
No, you've done that.

01:04:07.061 --> 01:04:09.393
Go, follow other people on social media if you want to be free of this, because it'll get you what you want.

01:04:09.393 --> 01:04:10.398
If you want to wake up every morning happy.

01:04:10.398 --> 01:04:12.907
If you want to wake up every morning doing what you love.

01:04:12.907 --> 01:04:14.699
If you want to wake up every morning with your heart open.

01:04:14.699 --> 01:04:20.625
You want to wake up every morning so you can show up for your family and your kids and your partner.

01:04:20.625 --> 01:04:26.449
And if that motivates you enough, then don't go to my social media.

01:04:26.489 --> 01:04:27.490
Go to danielbeckercom.

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Find out what we're doing.

01:04:28.271 --> 01:04:30.813
Find out about our no Change, no Charge guarantee.

01:04:30.813 --> 01:04:31.673
Learn about the program.

01:04:31.673 --> 01:04:34.496
Then book a free call with me and let's talk.

01:04:34.496 --> 01:04:43.452
You tell me what you're struggling with, I'll show you where it's coming from and I'll show you how we can solve it in six weeks.

01:04:43.452 --> 01:04:44.157
If you want to work with us, great.

01:04:44.157 --> 01:04:44.659
If not, that's okay too.

01:04:45.139 --> 01:04:46.722
We just want to work with motivated people who want to be free of this.

01:04:46.722 --> 01:04:50.007
I don't think I could say anything better than the way you said that.

01:04:50.007 --> 01:04:52.351
So, daniel, thank you so much.

01:04:52.351 --> 01:04:58.570
It's been an honor, it's been a privilege and, for the rest of you, we will see you in the next episode.